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America is genocidal, sure, but so is every single other society in the history of civilization. America is exceptional because of the technology and the art it contributed to genocide, which is the goal of every civiliztion, remember. Pointing out the difference in scale of US atrocities just prevents us working together for greater justice.
https://lemmy.ml/comment/6343679 https://hexbear.net/comment/4329347
exceptional
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_testimony
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction
https://www.salon.com/2016/09/16/u-k-parliament-report-details-how-natos-2011-war-in-libya-was-based-on-lies/
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/13/why-do-north-korean-defector-testimonies-so-often-fall-apart
let's not start another war based on hearsay and then find out it was all bullshit years later
Who said anything about starting a war?
This is not the testimony of a single person. In this article there are several accounts from direct witnesses. There is a lot of corroborating information. There is a mountain of evidence.
To dismiss the accounts of the abused as 'hearsay' is to defend the abusers.
Bro the China tribunal is funded by the Falun Gung. That’s like getting your opinion on psychiatrists from a Scientologist.
They were banned from China because they were setting children on fire and the organ harvesting claim is because they believe their organs become perfect due to their meditation techniques which is why the Chinese elite want to harvest them.
It’s Qanon for anti-China libs and you just ate it up and cited it as evidence.
Like… their website doesn’t even work. What important evidence is behind that link that says “undefined”? Top tier shit.
They also believe that race mixing is a sinister alien plot to weaken humanity. Very normal and hinged stuff.
Your "source" is literally funded by a cult known for human trafficking and child abuse, lmao I mean talk about ironic
You gonna start babbling about all the child eating satanic cults in America next? I mean hey there's a "mountain of accounts" about that stuff so it must be true right?
Look at the gears turning in Taiwan and the South China Sea
Nevertheless it is only testimony, and there is a history of fake testimony to justify US foreign policy
The BBC article gives unfalsifiable testimony from three named witnesses, one anonymous guard, and a chime-in from notorious bullshitter Adrian Zenz
Overhead pictures of camps — no one is disputing there are camps — and a small number of unfalsifiable witness accounts
Falun Gong site with a list of unfalsifiable witness accounts that are just text and a name, with no pictures
there's a whole Zenz rabbit hole but I'm going to sleep, here are two examples
https://hexbear.net/post/53306?scrollToComments=false
https://twitter.com/abovetheclouds/status/1404918115423633414
second one is more of a read
No luck finding those WMDs then?
It's just the one people shredder actually
Rarely does anyone come out and just SAY it, they spread a bunch of atrocity propaganda to make conditions in the country look so bad that people start thinking a war would be preferable to the status quo. It's the natural implication of spreading this kind of misinformation.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us-must-be-ready-simultaneous-wars-with-china-russia-report-says-2023-10-12/
Well okay sometimes the hawks just come out and say it.
lmao, people unironically peddling the uighur genocide slop still?
Just like Gaddafi's Viagra Army, right?
Not even the maximalist version of the Xinjiang China bad story involves genocide - read the UN OHCHR report on it https://www.ohchr.org/en/documents/country-reports/ohchr-assessment-human-rights-concerns-xinjiang-uyghur-autonomous-region
nice whataboutism
Whataboutism? What about deez nuts?
yes, please
Remember that the claims of genocide are from a man who believes that he received a message from capital G God himself to destroy China, and that the initial claims to genocide were based on him sending someone to Xinjiang, going to eight tiny rural villages, and asking a single person in each village how many people they thought were taken away to be reeducated, before extrapolating that number to the entirety of Xinjiang.
It's a methodology so bafflingly bad it wouldn't be accepted anywhere academically, but for some reason you "uhhh citations please??" dorks fucking eat it up.
As far as I remember no one actually traveled to those eight villages, the interviews were done over telephone lol
https://redsails.org/the-xinjiang-atrocity-propaganda-blitz/
next do the cultural genocide in tibet, because being a feudal theocracy that dismembers serfs is inherent to their culture or something
Trying to sell the "Uyghur genocide" in a post October 7th world is a little crass don't you think?
you would expect a massive insurgency in Xinjiang, millions of refugees, footage of atrocities, and Chinese media campaigns to demonize and dehumanize Uyghurs, if there were a genocide ongoing
user@informationsecurity.domainhas take aligned with us natsec hegemony. more at 11Even the US state department has given up on pushing that bullshit