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[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I dont understand the relevance of Mussolini's Italy at all though?

[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago

I believe the relevance is that Korea is a Peoples Republic and Mussolini's Italy a Social Republic, which are both terms that means a socialist state and both are lying (at least that what i remember from a leftcom arguing the same thing)

Also Leftcoms from the bordiga faction like to compare bad things a lot to mussolini's italy since that was the country bordiga critized most.

[–] CrushKillDestroySwag@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Mussolini was nominally a socialist in his early years, so even though he left that political program behind and radically repressed leftists and liberals of all shades when he was actually in power some people insist that he was a socialist then, too. It's on the same level as claiming that the Nazis were socialist because it was in their name.

[–] Maoo@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago

I think it's a more substantial criticism with Mussolini. While he went fash (obviously lol), he was able to take a ton of trade-unions and self-labeled socialists with him (something Bordiga focused on criticizing, naturally).

I think there is a danger of a squishy socialist/SocDem to social fash pipeline and you can often see it in the imperial core like with "socialists" that work for weapons manufacturers or CIA-adjacent NGOs. A particularly pernicious one is weapons company unions, where you get to witness a ton of nascently class conscious people hold their tongues when it might damage the precious local (warmonger) union jobs.