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[–] AstridWipenaugh@lemmy.world 57 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I have solar and use net zero or negative electricity per month. Costs me $28 for zero usage...

[–] TowardsTheFuture@lemmy.zip 22 points 2 years ago

Think about the POOR electric company that’s profiting off your negative electricity though!

[–] Nougat@kbin.social 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How it works, at least in Illinois, is that the rates for the electricity itself are capped, and are separate from the rates for delivering the electricity. The latter is for the connection to the grid, and having your electricity (in or out) transit on that grid. This allows you to buy electricity from whatever supplier you like, but you will still pay ComEd (who operates the grid here) for delivery in addition to that.

If your setup produces all the electricity you use and then some, then you could disconnect yourself from the grid and cancel your electric service. However, you would then not be able to sell the surplus you generate back to the electric company (if that's even a thing for you), and you have no electricity if there is a failure in your own generation (unless you have a gasoline generator as a backup).

As it stands, consider that $28 as insurance against failure of your solar, or if you ever need to draw more power than it generates for some reason.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

AFAIK it can literally be illegal to not be connected to the grid, because corruption.

[–] Nougat@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago

This article is about Florida specifically, but I wouldn't doubt that it would be similarly difficult elsewhere. It's most certainly a Fucking Mess™.

If you really want, I imagine you'd notify your local electric company that you are cancelling service and requesting disconnection, disconnect your house from the mains on your side, then just never pay another bill.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

That’s actually for the better, it’s wiring and transmission. Generation isn’t the sole cost of the electric grid and you are using it even if just the fees associated with keeping it able to supply power to you. But if it’s net zero and not gross zero you’re also using their storage.

I hate the privatized electric system myself, but we culturally seem to be thinking of the electric grid only when it breaks, and not as a highly delicate system run by specialists.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Shouldn't they be paying you when you produce more than you use? Are you feeding back into the system, or storing in batteries?

[–] AstridWipenaugh@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's net metering, no batteries. The solar dumps into the grid and rolls my meter backwards. The house still always draws from the grid and rolls the meter forwards. At the end of the year they cash out any credits on the account and pay me for them at roughly half the rate I pay them per kwh.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

I see. I wish we could get solar here and have it be worth the installation expense, but it is heavily overcast for most of the year.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Well fair enough to pay for the connection and ongoing maintenance in case you do use it, unless you generate enough to offset that.