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[–] GigglyBobble@kbin.social -3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

fair pay for fair work

Sure but what's fair? As you described, the work did change considerably. Translating from scratch is much more work and also much harder than fixing a mostly ok output. It would not be fair to pay both jobs the same amount since the latter can be done by people with less expertise/education.

Eventually, AI output won't need any human editing at all. What then? Resisting change driven by technology is understandable from the individual perspective but it has always been doomed to fail. You know that "computer" used to be a job title?

[–] MysticKetchup@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

If 10 farmers can make enough to feed 100 people, and new tech comes out that makes it possible for 5 farmers to make enough to feed 100 people, the ideal scenario is that now all 10 farmers should only have to work half as much. What usually ends up happening is that half the farmers are laid off so the boss at the top can pocket the extra money.

This is how we end up with enough resources to feed, clothe and house everyone but still have people living in poverty. Because the system is no longer designed to provide for people, it's meant to make profit for capitalists. It makes technological progress a negative instead of the positive of should be.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

When our wealthy are legitimately discussing a trip to Mars, fair pay is about whatever the local McDonald's charges for a double quarter pounder x5000, per year. After taxes.

Don't ask, but check for yourself!

[–] schmorpel@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Erm how much is than in sheep or potatos? I don't do McDonald's maths

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Well, that depends on the sheep.

Somewhere between like 50 and 500 sheep.

About 125 short tons of potatoes.

[–] schmorpel@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 years ago

Technological progress is okay if it is

  1. ecologically sustainable
  2. in the hands of the public, not a few corporations.

And AI fails for both.