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[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

Cartoons that don’t sexualize kids > cartoons that do

But the anti-4kids crowd hates that argument

[–] figaro@lemdro.id 39 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Your statement is correct, but I think people are taking it as an implication that all anime sexualizes kids, which is false. There's lots of really great anime out there.

[–] Moneo@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No all anime is for weebz and all cartoons are for kids.

Now shut up and let me watch my fake reality tv show.

[–] KingJalopy@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago
[–] absentbird@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

'but she's actually 400 years old-' still gross.

[–] NaoPb@eviltoast.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Well in Pokémon a character asks to suck Misty’s tits, it’s an anime trope for old people to be pervs and you come across a few in the series. There’s the beach episode and you get a lot of shots that pan from her ass

In Yu-gi-oh you get the “love slave” comment…along with yugi’s grandfather being a perv. Mai also hits on yugi a ton which either she’s a kid who they draw with huge tits and a really short skirt or she’s an adult trying to hit on a 14 year old

Inuyasha has Kagome bathing naked a few times

No Game No Life has not just loli but hinting at incest a bunch. But the main character (kid) is obsessed with trying to spy on the girls while they bathe. If you get the light novel then the opening pages are straight up loli hentai

[–] NaoPb@eviltoast.org 1 points 2 years ago

Thanks. That sounds terrible though.

[–] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago

it’s an anime trope for old people to be pervs

Weirdly enough, I just learned in my Developmental Psychology class recently that there's a very surprising amount of sex between old people going on in nursing homes. Some of the students who'd actually worked in nursing homes before even confirmed it. So the trope may not be as unfounded as we might think.

Not saying old people hitting on kids is okay. It's freaking weird and gross. Just stating an interesting fact.

[–] Syrc@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

But the anti-4kids crowd hates that argument

Anyone with a functioning brain is part of the “anti-4kids crowd”, I can assure you the majority of them agrees with your first statement as well.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Whenever you seen an anime watcher complaining about censorship in kids cartoons that’s what they complain about

4kids gave us the best TMNT series

[–] Syrc@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Uhh... no? Despite the fact that a lot of anime they dubbed was shounen, so for teens (but obviously they wouldn't know because cartoons are only kid stuff in their head), if they only censored sexualization of minors, or sexualization at all, people would be much, much less mad.

They censored every small mention of blood and death and most japanese cultural references, changed 90% of the names and soundtrack, straight-up skipped episodes and oversimplified dialogues dumbing down every message the series might've tried to convey. That's criminal. Yu-Gi-Oh is literally a different series outside of Japan. I've seen series/games where the only censorship is on sexualization, and the backlash is nowhere nearly that bad.

Not to mention they also had horrible practices towards voice actors and licensors, so really, there's no reason not to hate those pieces of shit.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

most japanese cultural references, changed 90% of the names and soundtrack,

Yeah, they went the extra mile to deliver higher quality dubs compared to Funimaton

[–] Syrc@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ah yes, more denaturalization of the original product = higher quality. Wonder why they didn’t have Captain Europe when localizing Marvel movies.

And then people wonder why anime dubs have a bad reputation when the biggest companies producing them were literally in a race for who could fuck more shit up.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Syrc@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

And, in most cases, they suck. The Inside Out ones I’ve seen are acceptable because they’re minimal and, as they say, "They learned that some of their content wouldn’t make sense in other countries". But 4Kids didn’t do that. They literally turned Japanese anime for teens into American cartoons for kids.

Removing any hint of a deep message in everything and making every series a travesty is nowhere nearly comparable to what Pixar, or other modern companies did. Pixar altered things to get the same message across, 4Kids did it to remove any, and change it with one of their dumb jokes (which, albeit often funny, were slammed in serious situations and killed the mood of everything. Make an original series if you want to do that).

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah Sonic, Kirby, Pokémon were definitely for teens

[–] Syrc@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

According to Wikipedia, they licensed 15 Anime franchises in total. 8 of those were originally aimed at teens, and probably have all been butchered.

Come on, we both know people aren’t hating on 4Kids because they removed a couple scenes from Kirby.