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My point is that trans oceanic jetliner travel is unsustainable full stop. It's quite literally bourgeoisie decadence that is destroying the livability of our planet for everyone else. Did you not even read the article we are commenting on?

It has to be ended and something will have to replace it. It's going to have to be a return to ocean liners making direct trips and electric prop planes island hopping PanAmerica style, both of which make the trip take days rather than mere hours. Airships are possible but they have a unreliably due to being at the mercy of weather and wind conditions combined with helium being an extremely finite resource (already running out, exponential price increase) that is not renewable.

Your insinuation that trans oceanic jetliners can't be gotten rid of because working class people not having the paid time off is what I found ridiculous. Felt like New York Times Opinion section peices arguing why the author needs their decadent treats and acting like said treats are a common thing rather than luxury. Your use of words like "inclusive" in the follow up was icing on the cake.

Your words not mine:

Anybody that has a full time job could never do this because 4-6 days each way means your PTO for the year is half-almost completely gone from just commute

Then following up:

I also never suggested it'd disrupt the leisure habit of anybody. Why would that even happen? You're literally making enemies up in your head

Not sure why you used paid time off (PTO) as the core reason for why jetliners from New York to London can't be replaced if you actually meant business travelers whose companies can't afford the time. Make up your mind.

Honestly these discussions make me realize how fkd we are, that it's going to come to a lot of bloodshed as the PMC and their masters do everything in their power to avoid giving up their treats.