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Students if school started at a later time: "That means later bed-time :D"
Something everyone here seems to be forgetting is that even if you are getting the same amount of sleep, sleeping at a time which fits your biological clock better is better for you. I can get some amount of sleep and wake up at 5am and be tired the whole day, and yet if I wake up at 8-9am with the same amount of sleep I am perfectly functional the whole day.
Circadian rhythms are rooted in our very cells and dominate our lives. Defying them always comes at a penalty. Adding to the complexity here is that everyone is different; social norms be damned.
Jetlag is probably the best studied phenomenon for trying to "break the rules", and surprise, there is no remedy other than waiting a few days to acclimate to a different solar cycle.
When I was in university I designed a semester around only having afternoon+evening classes.
I slept to 11 every day, which turned into staying up to 3 each night.
That’s still 8 hours of sleep, seems fine to me.
I had a whole semester where classes where all in the morning (there was no choice until I had failed on the following years) and that whole semester I didn't go to any classes. Great times sleeping.
There's two parts, amount of sleep and teens have a later sleep schedule (ie night owl).
But in any case just because some may abuse it doesn't mean we shouldn't have it for everyone else.
Um no, because teens are naturally on a later schedule with their circadian rhythm. They are natural night owls. Their circadian rhythm signals their body to go to sleep later than children or adults. Read into it, this is well researched.
Uhh, yes? I think that is kind of the point. To acknowledge they do have a different sleep requirements than adults and elders.
In terms of what time they go to bed? I might be missing something here but what I meant was that they'd just go to bed since school doesn't start that early, so they'd lack sleep again anyways.
The idea is that teenagers find it really hard to go to bed early. But school still starts very early. So they end up sleeping less than they should to function. The anti biology stance of "they should go to bed earlier" is not helpful. What's helpful is starting school later, let them have their vigil time into later hours, then they can sleep and recover fully, and do better at school. Thus potentially creating better educated adults.
See there's your problem. We can't have all these better educated adults in a functioning society. They'll become all liberal and ruin our perfectly established capitalism with their cries for a living wage or whatever peasants call for these days.
Can confirm. My last two years of high school it started at 9, and I'm now a leftist who believes decentralization is a virtue
Imagine if I didn't have to get up at 6 the first 2 years...I might've even tried organizing or something. Instead I'm just tired most of the time