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Headteachers in England tell of worsening behaviour of pupils – and parents
(www.theguardian.com)
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Let's just remind people that this is not a place where they choose to go, but a place where they are forced to go, and then people hold them to a behaviour standard that they never agreed to.
It’s an interesting point and appeals to my anarchist tendencies, but was it not broadly agreed that adults take decisions on behalf of minors, because an accumulation of experience and wisdom make them better equipped so to do ?
And was it not also broadly agreed that in the absence of a suitable adult, society would take those decisions, as best they could, for such children ?
Of course, one size does not fit all, but as was recently highlighted by pandemic, a great many children are, tragically, much safer in school than not.
If school as an institution were replaced, we’d still face those problems, I think.
Objection! Assumes facts not in evidence. :P
I suppose that's the root of the issue with our approach to education. If schooling is mandatory then it should also be mandatory to properly meet each child's individual needs, but in practice that doesn't happen. As a result many children reject school and achieve poor outcomes from it.
Not sure I’m entirely with you on that one; what’s the alternative to schooling kids so that they achieve autonomy and how do you propose to make them fit in a society where is seems important to have compatibility between everyone’s behaviour if not by pushing them towards a standard ?
Right? This is "playing music loudly on the public bus because I never agreed to be quiet" energy
Let's just remind ourselves that socialising and educating kids is always going to involve them doing things that they don't want to do.
You are correct. School does prepare children for adult life, employment and responsibilities.
Can you imagine what would happen if it was up to the kids to decide if they went to school? Haha...
The behaviour standards in school are much lower than in real life. In school telling your teacher to fuck off might get a demerit, or a warning, maybe isolation or in repeated circumstances suspension.
Telling your boss at McDonalds to fuck off will mean you don't work there any more.
Wait, not bullying, not disrupting others etc is something we have to ask consent for now?
Calm down there Che Guevara
Part of the function of school is to get you used to doing things you don't want to do. You'll be donning bland clothes and going to a grey, depressing building every day once you're an adult too.
who cares if they agree to it, they are kids, they dont know how they should behave.