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[–] radiofreeval@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Too little of it and prominent assholes (Stallman et al.)

[–] RNAi@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No idea about shit, why Stallman is an asshole?

[–] LesbianLiberty@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Incredibly prolific harasser of women and talks a lot in official communiques about ephebophila lea-tired

There was some good article I found the other day, I'll try and retrieve it as an edit later

[–] jaeme@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Correction: Stallman is not part of open source initiative. His essays on Free software are seperate as well as the GNU Project and FSF.

[–] radiofreeval@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The separation between Free software and open source software is a very narrow one. Most open source projects use the GPL. Just because he doesn't write code and isn't in a leadership role in GNU or the FSF doesn't change the fact that he is a very influential figure.

[–] jaeme@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I agree it's really narrow in practice. But the basic idea is that Free/libre pertains to your 4 freedoms while open source is about technical craft through a superior design philosophy. There are also historical considerations as OSI was derived from the initial Free software movement and was historically designed to appeal to corporations.

Stallman is very influential for his pioneering of Free software and the GPL/copyleft. But that's what it's limited to now. If you want an example, I contribute to GNU Guix which has put out a statement against Stallmans continued role in representing GNU.

People have very conflicting feelings about Stallman because the campaign for his removal was to be frank, a total clusterfuck. I'm not a Stallman supporter by any means, but it was bad.

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago

that's a good statement and totally underscores my own feelings towards the man.

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I feel so conflicted about Stallman. he's ideologically correct that free software must be protected from encroachment by capital -- but such a fucking creep/asshole on literally everything else.

[–] radiofreeval@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There's so many better representatives for free software, to put it gently, Stallman has long outlived his usefulness.

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

agreed, he just has an important legacy that can't be ignored.

[–] radiofreeval@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't know why one needs to make a moral judgment on him. He existed and what he created is important but it's not like we're the jury on his trial.

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago

I'm comfortable making a moral judgement on the pedophilia comments

[–] The_Grinch@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Probably my most problematic fave of all time. He's such a lovable dork and right about everything a good 95% of the time, but then when he's wrong he's very very wrong cringe

I still think I could fix him though.

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

He's really not