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[–] bear@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 years ago (18 children)

If you think evidence-based reasoning is a form of religion, you need to check your house for gas leaks.

[–] Solumbran@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (17 children)

Read again.

I think that believing in science is a form of religion.

[–] bear@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 years ago (16 children)

Explain how you can rationally take science into account without believing it. I'm very interested in watching you try to untwist that pretzel.

[–] RIPandTERROR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

All right, so this is their stupid fucking argument:

Believing in someone's research without studying it yourself is just religion.

The reason why they're fucking stupid is all the peer review that goes into it from professionals who specialize in the fields they peer review. While religion generally stands on the feet of "trust me bro", trust in science has a bit more of a backbone. You, or someone you trust to be knowledgeable, can go back and fact check work.

Aside from all of those arguments though, science is something you perform yourself. That in no way can be compared to a religion, as you can produce irrefutable results on your own with science. Not on all subjects, but I have yet to see religion produce irrefutable results using their methods on literally anything.

[–] Solumbran@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

That's not my argument.

Instead of being uselessly insulting, feel free to read my other comments that explained my argument and you'll see that this is not what I meant. Here for example: https://lemmy.world/comment/5589810

[–] Five@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Your comment is inappropriately rude, and adds little more than hostility to the discussion.

This is a moderator warning to revise it.

[–] Solumbran@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Being called "fucking stupid" isn't rude, but calling out an useless participation because of that is rude?

[–] Five@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They're both rude, and I don't appreciate either. But

  • You weren't called "fucking stupid" -- your argument was.
  • TBF your argument appears pretty stupid
  • @RIPandTERROR@lemmy.blahaj.zone made an attempt to parse your argument. That's a positive contribution.

If you de-escalate and take time to explain your position better and they're still rude to you, and someone reports their behavior, I'll give them a similar warning.

[–] Solumbran@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Both were called fucking stupid, first the comment talked about "their argument", then why "they're stupid".

Your opinion on my argument doesn't seem like a very good reason, moderation wise.

And I already had explained my argument in details with another line of comments before this person left theirs. They made an attempt at attacking my argument without bothering to read what i wrote, for the sole purpose of being insulting. Thus my response saying that the comment was useless.

[–] Five@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, they did call you stupid also, and that's rude. Sorry I missed that.

Perhaps you should revise your response to link to the line of comments you wish they'd read.

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