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Can anyone lead me to an effortpost on debunking racial myths like 13/50 (hexbear.net)
submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net to c/askchapo@hexbear.net
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I am a bit unconfident about it...

Here, to give a basis of the argument I need to debunk, here's an article from right-libertarian think tank Reason.com to respond to:

https://reason.com/volokh/2021/04/24/race-and-violent-crime/

Blacks, which here means non-Hispanic blacks, were 12.5% of the U.S. population, and non-Hispanic whites were 60.4%. It thus appears from this data that the black per capita violent crime rate is roughly 2.3 to 2.8 times the rate for the country as a whole, while the white per capita violent crime rate is roughly 0.7 to 0.9 times the rate for the country as a whole.

Note: keep in mind he's extrapolating a certain part of the U.S, New York, to the rest of America's national crime statistics

Something in the vein of a masterpost like Naomi's research and rhetoric masterdoc

Easily understandable and accessible, yet with a great amount of statistics put upon it

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[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

We could also talk about the history of criminal enforcement, the origins of police, the institutionalization of crime, the self defenses capitalism creates when faced with a group of people who don't want to participate in capitalism. Because it's all relevant.

I guess that's what Masses, Rebels, et Elites was about

Knowing the numbers alone isn't enough. The social science equivalent of that is history. If we just focus purely on stats, there's enough room for everyone to write their own narrative. So you gotta bring some narrative to the argument.

Well, amen... I guess I caught in the numbers that I forgot that the real life narrative is what's needed to be controlled and fought for constantly, whether by the fascists that spread those myths or the social scientists that analyze them...