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[–] bruhduh@lemmy.world 54 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm out of the loop, can someone reply what's going on? I'll leave this comment for those like me who curious what happened

[–] spark947@lemm.ee 55 points 2 years ago (2 children)

David Rosen of Wolfire Games (Receiver, Overgrowth, Lugaru) is alleging that steam reps have threatened to de-list his game if he lists it as less expensive on other platforms. Specifically not just steam keys but other distribution platforms.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 46 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Which is hard to believe, considering how many times I've bought steam games on other (legitimate) platforms that were cheaper than on steam, that are still on steam today and werent removed for being cheaper on another platform.

[–] Rose@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sure, but Valve essentially reserve the right to no longer sell your game if it's offered cheaper elsewhere. See the quotes on pages 54 through 56 of the complaint.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Which is a dick move on valves part.

Remember folks, Valve isnt the peoples company.

All the good things it does, it does only because of regulation pressure or lost lawsuits.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Remember folks, Valve isnt the peoples company.

No corporation is "the peoples corporation", but some corporations treat their customers with a lot more respect and fairness in pricing/policies than others.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Yes, but people have to be reminded of that with "sweetheart" companies like AMD and Valve, because they get too deep in the koolaid and forget it.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago

It isn't the peoples' company, but nor is it a publicly traded company that is obligated to pursue profits above all else. It's Gabe's company, and he gets to run it as he sees fit.

Ultimately Wolfire's argument falls apart not because Valve is setting the terms, but because their claims about Valve's position in the industry and supposed abuse of power don't hold much water.

[–] theonyltruemupf@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago

They also make nice hardware, but they don't do that out of the goodness of their hearts of course

[–] deafboy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

TIL: valve is run by robots.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 7 points 2 years ago

All those Humble Bundles for a start.

[–] Spedwell@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I believe it is in the Steam marketplace agreement, and applies to all games. Are you referring to sales on other platforms, or to the full listed price?

[–] spark947@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

That hasn't been my experience, could be a regional pricing thing.

[–] sebinspace@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

Not only that, but games you’ve actually heard of, too

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oh shit. I love David Rosen. I also live GabeN...

I should be the judge.

[–] spark947@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

Yeah, it sucks when mommy and daddy fight.