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[–] Guntrigger@feddit.ch 41 points 2 years ago (4 children)

This feels like one of those "VR in the 90s was shit so we should never develop VR" kind of things.

[–] Sheeple@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's really moreso that raytracing nowadays is intensely poorly implemented when there is usually better ways to go about it.

We have the means to be efficient about our graphics. But instead we go about it in the most unoptimized ways imaginable

[–] Guntrigger@feddit.ch 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's exactly my point. Raytracing is being shoehorned into things without them being optimised specifically for it at the moment. That doesn't mean we should stop developing the tech entirely because people are implementing it poorly most of the time.

[–] Trollception@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How do you "optimize' it? You would think with so many game companies using it that if there was a better way than there would be at least one title with optimized ray tracing. The issue is the computational requirements for convincing ray tracing. When Toy Story 1 was rendered originally it took 45 minutes to 3 hours to render a single frame of video. Give it time and the GPUs will eventually be fast enough. Baby steps with new tech.

[–] Guntrigger@feddit.ch 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Optimization is not an on/off switch. All companies are optimising their implementation to the best of their ability/budget. As coders get more familiar with the tech and it becomes more commonplace, as well as work being done by graphics card companies on their drivers, it will reduce the computational requirements over time. There's a hell of a lot of work that goes into graphical processing on hardware, software, engine and game levels to make things look better for less computations, it's not just "tell GPU to do simulate every particle from the sun".

[–] Sheeple@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

There's also the other side of the issue. As tech gets better, devs are less incentivised to optimise their crap. Which leads to games that look and function the same as older games, but are now bloated beyond belief.

It's a strange paradox of tech innovation. The more powerful our tech becomes, the less we feel like properly utilizing said tech.

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Vr is the 3D cinema of gaming

[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

When I got my oculus quest I played it as often as possible. That’s the problem though, it just doesn’t make sense to play it almost ever.

If I were a teenager or someone who lived alone I could really get into it. The problem is disconnecting entirely from everyone around me for a game.

With my Steam Deck or my Switch, I can put my kid on my lap and play. I can sit it down easily and help my wife with a chore. I can walk around at work in my downtime and play.

VR is awesome. I absolutely love it. I just don’t have time to fuck with it. I would imagine that’s the case for most people.

[–] Guntrigger@feddit.ch 5 points 2 years ago

3D cinema is more like light gun games. Kinda cool but it doesn't really advance anything.

Man, now I've said that I miss the old Namco arcades.

[–] Gladaed@feddit.de 10 points 2 years ago

Correct. This meme templates is a unreasonable Statement paired with outdated arguments and modern images/facts poking fun at idiots. It also commonly confounds the reason for the thing with something easily observable.

[–] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Isn’t VR still pretty shit?

[–] Guntrigger@feddit.ch 1 points 2 years ago

It's expensive, but a high end rig with a good headset (index or vive), it's pretty great.