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The Internet Systems Consortium has stopped maintaining their DHCP client, which is standard on a lot of distros.
Debian has updated its documentation and now warns users to choose an alternative:

https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/isc-dhcp-client

On Debian Unstable, I was already forced to uninstall it in yesterday's upgrade.
If you're using network-manager, you don't need to worry, since it includes its own dhcp client, but for others, this might be relevant.

On Arch, this concerns the dhcpd package:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Dhcpd

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[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

And here I was thinking people were about to move to systemd-networkd so network would actually work decently on the Linux desktop and then I remembered that GNOME comes with the bs called network-manager.

[–] KISSmyOS@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

And here I'm wondering when systemd-desktopd will replace Gnome.

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

That's gonna be a good day. I'm sure they'll have the common sense to include systemd-desktopd-iconsd and systemd-desktopd-slow-transition-animationsd will be optional. :P

[–] code@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

God i hate network manager and the vpnc plugin specifically. Its been broken for almost 2 years. You cannot add a vpnc vpn in network manager.

[–] Laser@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

What's broken? I just added a vpnc connection on my machine (granted can't test it since I have nothing to connect to) but there was a vpnc connection profile until I deleted it.

[–] code@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What distro? Might be gnome only. Im on latestest budgie and cant add. Theres github issues etc. I can edit the file by hand and it works so no biggie but its a long standing issue

[–] Laser@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] code@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 years ago

Yea im currently looking into a diff distro

[–] Laser@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I use both depending on the device. My desktop at home and all servers use systemd-networkd and I'm very happy with it. Right now, I'm on vacation and NetworkManager comes in very helpful with the ability to quickly manage networks as a normal user with a graphical user interface.

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Question is: why can't the GNOME people that are so eager to reinvent everything dedicate a few bucks out of their new 1M€ funding and integrate it with systemd-networkd and ditch the old NetworkManager for good. That thing is inconsistent and to make things worse now we've the "new network settings" with some settings and then the NetworkManager window/GUI with more settings and things are as coherent as Windows 10's new Settings vs Control Panel... Fucks sake GNOME.

For what's worth in Windows I can pull the old Control Panel Network Connections settings go into properties and manage everything network adapters have to over with a simple tab based navigation. In GNOME right now it is a shit show of jumping around between the GNOME Settings and the older NetworkManager GUI to end up not being able to easily get a VLAN tag on some connection.

[–] Laser@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Why would they ditch NetworkManager though? What's everyone's issue with it?

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

I just told you a few...