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[โ€“] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee -5 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Beavers. Just the mere sound of rushing water triggers their damn building instincts (scientists tested this). Just let the environment be itself.

[โ€“] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Beavers create wetlands where other animals thrive. Plus wetlands are carbon sinks.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-64502365

[โ€“] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Oh, didn't know that. I thought they were just indiscriminate wood workers. Everyone says their level of destruction is second only to humans.

[โ€“] Stoneykins@mander.xyz 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I can't tell if this is a bit or someone who has only heard of beavers from a half overheard conversation they were eavesdropping on.

[โ€“] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I've heard of beavers, just I've never heard the part about their benefits before, just that they make structures to block water and that they do it whenever the urge kicks in. The times beavers have been brought up around me just happen to leave that out.

[โ€“] Stoneykins@mander.xyz 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Huh. Do you live pretty far from where beavers do (not asking you to be specific)?

But yes, beavers are great. They are what is known as a "keystone species" because they create the wetland environments that many other species depend on to live in. They eat wood, and yes, the way they build dams is by piling debris/wood wherever they find/hear flowing water, until they've plugged it all up. Then they build a lodge with an underwater entrance in the pond they made, and stock it with sticks to eat through the winter. I think they are adorable.

[โ€“] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago

It seems like I do, we get so many different animals here and of those I've only seen a beaver once. Plenty of woodchucks though, such as this sleeping beauty I woke up walking out.

waking up

[โ€“] eezeebee@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think the term "destruction" has been used too loosely here. Sure, beavers can change the landscape, but they don't make it uninhabitable for all life. As someone else mentioned they create wetlands.

Being second place in the destructiveness competition with humans is like they don't come anywhere close.

[โ€“] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Don't they need to modify how many trees there are in the process though (which would be reckless to anything that depends on each one)?

[โ€“] eezeebee@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

Yes, they cut down trees. Approximately 200 per year. But these fallen trees stay nearby, and they are the beaver's home as well as some of their food. Plus they create a bigger wetland ecosystem than what they took away with those trees. Compare that to what humans do with trees we cut down... transport, process, burn, all sorts of things that are worse for the environment.

"When a beaver builds a dam, it floods outlying areas creating wetlands. Frogs, salamanders, fish, birds and lots of mammals depend on wetlands to live. One estimate shows nearly half of all endangered & threatened species need wetlands to survive."

[โ€“] Stoneykins@mander.xyz 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Btw even if it wasn't intentional this is the funniest thing I've seen today, "damn building instincts" had me in tears.

I'm sorry if this is rude, I'm glad we had a pleasant exchange.

[โ€“] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

It's not rude, I laughed a bit too. Damn autocorrect.

[โ€“] mustardman@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Beavers are immensly important for the environment for that very instinct. Where they go instinct, the land dries out and floods become much more severe.

[โ€“] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

How did nature cope before beavers existed?

[โ€“] isame@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Fun thing is nature always copes. When we've lit the atmosphere on fire and been killed off by climate change, chances are long after we're gone life will persist and leave us irresponsible children behind.

It's beautiful, in a way.

[โ€“] Bay_of_Piggies@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago

Some plants are going to enjoy all that extra co2

[โ€“] mustardman@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Not as good lol. Nature is constantly evolving and improving and beavers are such an improvement.

[โ€“] Saeculum@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

Nature is just a process of change. There is no improvement or deterioration, and it's not building towards some final goal or state.