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What a dumb response. There's nothing wrong with tweaking history to improve a story, but claiming "It could be true. Who really knows?" is just pretentious puffery. Like the entirety of historical study around Napoleon is equivalent to Ridley Scott's made up stories. What a tool.
😂 That response sounds like moron creationists when you explain evolution to them.
Not sounds like, literally is. That was the crux of Ken Ham's argument when he debated Bill Nye. I'm not sure why he doesn't apply it to his own Bible.
Big "do your own research!" energy.
Ok, but hear me out. What if: aliens?
That’s James Cameron.
Second thing is age. Phoenix is 49. Bonaparte died at 51, after six years exile on Saint Helens. You can say what you want, Phoenix does look the part, but it's easy too old.
Just like Dafoe playing van Gogh it's just not right.
I don't really care about that. If it makes for a good movie, then why should it matter? It's his attitude about it all that's uncalled for.
Fair enough, I just think it's silly and an exemplar of Scott not giving a monkeys about the historical person.
A valid answer from Ridley would be that his adaptation makes for a better story and that's acceptable. But blowing off the historians like that is pretentious.
Exactly
I mean, it's a Hollywood movie telling a story.. if you care about 100% historical accuracy, Hollywood is not who you're getting it from, nor should you expect it at this point. It's entertainment, not education.
I don't expect it, however I do really appreciate it when they make an effort.
Should have gone with Steve Buscemi?
Hah!
I'm just afraid, based on the critiques, that he has made it into MTV's Real World Napoleon.
This is just pure arrogance. I think everyone understands you can take artistic licence, or even completely disregard history and do pure fiction, but don't go claiming you know the history better than historians.