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I do not know why this specific fact made to the front page or whether if it has something to do with the seige on Gaza right now and American Government being totally pog with it.

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[–] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Fun fact: the original English definition of "Europe" excluded western Russia.

The Brits didn't even know what the Ural hills were until ~1870. When they found out about them, they jumped at the chance to make them define Europe, because they had no other geographic justification (btw these hills are not a plate boundary and do not impede movement, they are basically as nonexistent as hills can be)

There were also multiple British geographers who wanted Britain to be its own continent separate from Europe.

[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Fuck I never knew the Urals were so low they make the Great Dividing Range, the archetypal "barely mountains" look like the fucking Himalayas.

Everything, and I mean EVERYTHING white is fake

not just politics, but geography, taxonomy, etc etc

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm old enough that the idea of Ukraine being considered Europe soundes utterly ridiculous.

[–] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Frank@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think it's a really good example of how whiteness is contextual and can be extended and withdrawn to suit the situations. Slavs being White seemed utterly preposterous to me, that's just not how racists work, but then the Ukraine war happened and the Ukrainians were immediately race-lifted. And now the Ukrainians all have proud Viking-Aryan heritage as evinced by their definitely not Nazi "ancient heritage" symbols.

[–] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

the aryans weren't white

but yes otherwise true

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nazi "Aryans" or actual historical Aryans?