I do not know why this specific fact made to the front page or whether if it has something to do with the seige on Gaza right now and American Government being totally pog with it.

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[–] logflume@hexbear.net 43 points 2 years ago (1 children)

a genocide has to start with holo- or else it’s just sparkling massacre

[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 32 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wikipedia with the centrist take

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_victims

Both the famine in the USSR as well as Nazi extermination of Soviet citizens were genocides

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This article's factual accuracy is disputed. (October 2023)

barbara-pit for Wikipedia editors.

[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

On the talk page it says they added it cause they can't decide if non-Jews count as Holocaust victims lmao. So I guess you guys were right.

[–] panopticon@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago

I think losurdo said the deaths of Soviet POWs may have reached 5 million so of course wikiHimmler went with the under estimate