I mean, the fact he wasn't willing to follow laws implemented during HIS rule kinda tells you everything you need to know. "Rules for thee but not for me"

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 33 points 2 years ago (16 children)

And yet he didn't just not follow it, he took the result to court as he was legally entitled to do. It's very strange how you'll hold to the narrative of an article written in 2017 when you have the benefit of knowing the outcome, of seeing the neo-nazis and other violent reactionaries that opposed him and killed thousands after they ousted him. They didn't just appear over night with a snap of a finger when he didn't "follow the rule", they were an active force in the government and the media that created the very narrative you're now espousing, despite knowing the truth.

[–] Lemvi@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 years ago (15 children)

I am merely criticising his (lack of) commitment to democracy. I agree that Bolivia was better off with him than it is now, but that doesn't invalidate my point. The fact that the people who came after him were/are worse does not retroactively turn him into a Saint.

[–] Tachanka@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I am merely criticising his (lack of) commitment to democracy

Citations Needed Episode 25: The Banality of CIA-Curated Definitions of ‘Democracy’

Few words elicit such warm feelings as the term "Democracy." Wars are supposedly fought for it, foreign policies are built around it, protecting and advancing it is considered the United States' highest moral order.

Democracy's alleged opposite - broadly called "authoritarianism," "autocracy" or "tyranny” - is cast as the ultimate evil. The stifling, oppressive boot of the state that curtails liberties and must be fought at all costs. This is the world in which we operate and the one where the United States and its satellite media and NGO allies fight to preserve and defend democracy.

So how is "democracy" defined and how are those definitions used to justify American exceptionalism? Where do positive and negative rights come into play, and how do societal choices like illiteracy, poverty, and hunger factor into our notions of freedom?

On today's episode, we discuss the limits of democracy rankings, the oft-cited "Polity IV" metric devised by the CIA-funded Center for Systemic Peace, and more with guest George Ciccariello-Maher.

[–] Lemvi@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Interesting. I agree that democracy is hard to define. But I do not agree that this means we should stop striving for it. And there definitely are governments that are more democratic than others.

[–] Orannis62@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What would you consider the most democratic governments? Give me a couple examples

[–] Lemvi@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think the nordic countries have a pretty good thing going.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago

nordic countries

Social Imperialist smuglord detected

load more comments (13 replies)

load more comments (17 replies)