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[–] Rod_Blagojevic@hexbear.net 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Weilding state power is authoritarian. It has the potential to materially improve working class living conditions, but does nothing to express your essential, moral purity.

Being less glib, every wedge idea like this is predicated on recognizing and participating in class conflict. The liberals that have influence in the party are profoundly uninterested in class conflict, and often don't even accept that it's even a real phenomenon.

[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago

Oh, they are interested in class conflict, they are just rooting for the other side.

[–] leftofthat@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago

The liberals that have influence in the party are profoundly uninterested in class conflict

I agree with this. They will often just compartmentalize it to be a matter of "law and order." A lot feel good about just keeping their head down and supporting the police, etc., knowing they won't be the one acted upon with violence.

The ones that dance on the edge of class conflict will just focus on the "middle class" to avoid an actual class analysis.