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The downvote button is still abused as a "I don't agree with your opinion" button though...
"I don't agree" -> "the content of this comment is false, because it doesn't agree with what I believe to be true" -> "this comment provides no value, because its content is lies". There's no way you can prevent that chain of reasoning, especially since it's largely unconscious for most people.
I suppose it'd probably be pretty hard to sell people on lies being good, on the basis of lies being good ground for refutation of those lies, huh?
But then I dunno, I'd take like 30 comments of people all disagreeing with some premise in some similar way, compared to like, a 10 comment long reference getting 30 gorillion upvotes, because everyone has to be god's gift to comedy.
That's unfortunately true 😕
yeah I don't really know how we can improve on that
I think lesswrong has an "agree/disagree" vote as well as a "this comment is/is not high quality and relevant button"
A "I don't agree with that" button?
What would it do? If it didn't do anything, people would just use the downvote button
You remove the downvote button. Or maybe instead of points you only allow stickers/emoticon reactions.
You should only get so many downvotes to use per day. Maybe 3.
Ironically gets downvoted by people who disagree
Yup, perfect example of the problem. An on-topic comment adding to the discussion. Sure maybe not the ultimate solution but a valid point to consider.
This is a nice idea that I've seen before, but also one that sort of needs a centralized platform to work well
That's a good point.
There's a lot more bad content than 3 per day, though. Also, downvotes have essentially no effect, so the whole mechanism is a bit pointless. Better than nothing, still.