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‘Pure greed:’ Etiquette expert explains why tipping has gotten out of control
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The "pure greed" framing makes a lot more sense when talking about CEO pay ratios or something. Of course the server making the $2/hr tipped wage is "greedy" for more money, that's called "wanting to live."
Maybe instead of tipping more we should just get rid of tip wage.
If businesses close, then they couldn't be im business without exploitation of their workers and don't deserve to be in business.
many states have already gotten rid of tip wage. the problem remains that the US minimum wage is not enough to live on
That’s a completely different issue though - there are loads of minimum wage jobs that aren’t tipped. The issue here is that tipped positions can be paid LESS THAN minimum wage, and while legally if their tips and hourly come out to less than minimum wage they should be given minimum wage, this often does not happen.
But then when you argue this point with servers they’ll say “but I make more with tips” and that’s the point where I say ok then if you prefer it that way cool but I’m not tipping and then they get all shocked pikachu face and start trying to argue why I have to tip because of the wage issue I WAS JUST DESCRIBING at which point I say get fucked your are part of the problem.
I agree
It's greedy when it goes from "please tip I need money to make a living wage" to "don't get rid of tipping, I make 80k a year from it." Just get paid normally like the rest of us. Forced tipping is a scam.