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[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Since 1999 it's been federal law that front driver and passenger sides of vehicles have airbags.

So no. There's airbags there coming out of someplace.

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Companies break the law all the time. You'll recall VW got nailed recently for lying about their emissions, and whole industries (AirBnb, Uber, and all derivatives) have been built on flagrantly ignoring the law.

Between the endless examples of corporate crimes and the obvious financial incentives to keep doing them, the presumption should be that every company is breaking the law.

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago

You never know, Musk might have ordered his engineers to "replace the airbags with fart noises 😂🤣" despite every single one of his engineers telling him it's a bad idea.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Because nothing is ever done that ignores or defies regulations.

Because the fines are always so steep and crushing that corporations never continue doing the bad thing while just paying the tiny fines.

[–] conductor@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The cars wouldn’t be fit for sale, it’s not a “pay a fine” thing. They won’t be allowed to sell them.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

doubt

The cars wouldn’t be fit for sale

Teslas are already loaded with regulation-defying jank and have been produced in factories that were supposed to be closed during covid lockdowns. You're imagining a fantastical version of laws and regulations that actually stop billionaire assholes from just walking over them.

[–] conductor@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I mean that’s fair, but I wouldn’t put my money on the cyber truck releasing without airbags. (If it ever actually sells at all)

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago

With the systemic structural failures and shoddy workmanship of Teslas so far, I wouldn't be surprised if there was a grudging performative presence of airbags that fail to deploy under intended conditions.

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They won’t be allowed to sell them.

By who? How well are laws enforced against huge corporations?

[–] conductor@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I mean, do you think they’d be allowed to sell a car without seatbelts? Like honestly?

If this thing ever actually gets released and it doesn’t have airbags, feel free to message me an “I told you so”. I just don’t think it’ll happen.

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

You could have asked the same question about whether a company like Uber would really be allowed to run an illegal taxi company. Or if AirBnb would be allowed to run an illegal hotel company.

I'm not saying it'll happen for sure, just that it's not as far outside the realm of possibility as you might think. Breaking the law but being too big for it to really matter is a business strategy.

[–] The_Walkening@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

If it doesn't, there's an extremely funny scenario where Tesla tries to sell it as an off-road vehicle, which don't have the safety requirements, but can't be issued a plate in thr majority of US states.

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

They could deploy uselessly from the ceiling or something and still meet the regulation of "being installed"