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[–] stebo02@sopuli.xyz 64 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

Actually this is how we've been reconstructing dinosaurs. They're probably all very wrong.

[–] Malgas@beehaw.org 43 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] makuus@pawb.social 14 points 2 years ago

I want to believe…

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 4 points 2 years ago

Then you have physcs and how much weight the bones can lift before breaking.

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 37 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] jomoo99@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

We need to bring back the chonkosaurs

[–] protist@mander.xyz 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

T. rex

T. rex may have had lips, for example

[–] dingleberry@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 2 years ago

Luscious kissable lips?

[–] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I dont care how scientifically accurate Dino's with bird feathers are, they will never be as cool as the Jurassic park dino of my childhood

[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

IIRC the current theory is that many (likely most) had feathers but few of the large ones had actual wings beyond just a row of longer feathers on the forearms. The bodily structures that allow flight are absent on the vast majority of dinosaurs so it's thought they mostly used their arm feathers as rudders for better control when running (which the ostrich and other large flightless birds still use). However, it is thought that some smaller species likely did have wings which they used to glide much like a flying squirrel. Eventually they evolved larger chest muscles and a keel for attaching said large muscles, and at that point you could reasonably just call them birds, which are to this day a subset of dinosaurs.

[–] DroneRights@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Birds are dinosaurs because taxonomy as a field is fundamentally based on garbage pseudoscience

[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

But even with more modern methods like cladistics and genetic analysis, birds are still found to be directly descended from contemporary dinosaurs.

[–] DroneRights@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And the taxonomic rule that any animal is also all of its ancestors is garbage science.

[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

That's not "science," that's just an arbitrary convention that can help simplify communication of complex toppics. The genetic data that the convention is derived from is the science, in the form of a lineage of genetic relations between organisms and nothing else, because biology has exactly zero built-in categories or labels, and those are all human-made.

[–] DroneRights@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago

Exactly, it's not science. And it's not helpful either. It doesn't simplify communication. The representative conventions of taxonomy are not derived from evidence, they're derived from the irrelevant feelings of taxonomists hundreds of years ago who didn't understand how the world works. It's pseudoscience. Pointless tradition masquerading as a legitimate exploratory endeavour.

[–] Salvo@aussie.zone 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Spoken like someone who thinks Pluto should still be considered a Planet.

But you are right, Jurassic Park would be a completely different movie if Genaro was eaten my something that looked like an oversized quail.

[–] name_NULL111653@pawb.social 9 points 2 years ago

Pluto will forever be a planet in our hearts...

[–] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Salvo@aussie.zone 1 points 2 years ago

Just purchased. Now it will languish in my iBooks library with other illustrated books until some time in the distant future…

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 2 points 2 years ago

It's a while ago. Now they're probably pretty accurate.