The point about being omnipotent vs free will is... if he does ANYTHING to change our fate, he's corrupting free will, which is supposed to be our greatest gift.

The entire concept of an omniprescient and all powerful being is nonsensical as described by Christians. A being LITERALLY CANNOT be all knowing, all kind, and omnipotent. Not if our reality is involved.

That is why there is so much debate over the nature of god and "good". As described, it is literally impossible, so it becomes incredibly subjective.

Morals are subjective, and so is God.

[–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago

Yep, omnipotence is logically impossible. But try tell that a christian. That's my point, the christian god is logically impossible.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

He seemed to be happy to intervene in the Bible. Many times. So hasn't he already corrupted free will?

[–] TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.id 1 points 2 years ago

Save yourself the trouble; free will as we normally conceive of it is entirely an illusion.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

if he does ANYTHING to change our fate, he’s corrupting free will, which is supposed to be our greatest gift.

Not really, unless you consider that every interaction with anything interferes or "corrupts" our free will. If I plan on playing a game, but a friend of mine says "dude, don't, you'll regret it, it fucking sucks", and I decide to not play, did this friend corrupt my free will?

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Your analogy is a little broken. God wouldn't be simply telling you not to. God is literally changing what you want to do, or any other number of "omnipotent" actions that are not possible by someone not omnipotent.

The concept itself is incompatible with reality that operates like ours. Ours has clear, obvious, demonstrable, and repeatable rules. If those rules change, we literally cannot tell.

Omnipotence is quite literally a pointless point when there is literally NOTHING that demonstrates power beyond the existing rules. There is literally nothing that breaks causality in our reality. Our reality and existence is quite literally incompatible with omnipotence as described in the bible.