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I hope the Macs come with more than 8GB of RAM.
This man. There is nothing wrong with selling base model MacBook air or iMac with 8 gigs. If you market a product as "pro" targeting professionals or power users , 16gigs should be the base memory for those models.
that’s not what pro means for Apple
“AirPods pro”
Yep, but people are still hell-bent on Apple giving 16GB for entry level MBs since very other Windows manufacturer does it. Heck, even comments in the post about a low-cost 12 inch MB had people saying Apple better release it with 16GB RAM and 512GB storage. Not going to happen...
Honestly, if there was a Windows laptop which had decent build quality with internals and software that didn't break, and the OS was more like Windows 7, I'd just buy that. The specs in Windows laptops are very good at this point. It's just everything else that's the problem. I don't want to pay the apple tax, but because of these shitty Windows laptops I'm forced to.
I recently spent 3 days debugging the WiFi on my Windows PC because it wouldn't connect to the internet at all through one of my satellites, and would not connect to certain domains (specifically Epic and Windows Store download services) from the base router. The problem ended up being fixed by assigning a static IP.
I've spent tons of time fighting with all sorts of other weird problems in the past, often sound related. My wife's work computer (a PC) refuses to do sound output over DP or HDMI, for example.
Point being, Windows machines, due to the OS alone, are worth several hundred dollars less than Macs to me because they take so much babysitting and can break in weird ways at a moment's notice.
Yes, and their resale values are shit too. That's another point in favour of Macs.
Mark my words, they will come with 12GB.
Why? If they make the part for iPads and MBAs anyway, why not offer the choice of a lower-price model? You can't conceive of a person who doesn't need the extra memory but would like the better display and extra ports?
It's absolutely too expensive by probably at least $200, but that's different than saying it shouldn't even exist.
But didn't they say 8GB is just as good as 16?
Yes, and it’s not.
I know people shit on Macrumours but they did a little writeup to go with a review from a Max Tech co-host, and it covers this pretty well.
https://www.macrumors.com/2023/11/10/8gb-ram-in-m3-macbook-pro-proves-the-bottleneck/
The whole "8GB is as good as 16GB on Intel/AMD" makes literally zero sense.
You don’t need macrumors to tell you 16 >>> 8
Not sure how an article that compares 8gb vs 16gb on otherwise the same CPU can possibly disprove a statement that 8gb on Apple Silicon = 16gb on x86. We need to see comparisons to the most closely comparable Intel chip.
Of course 16gb is better than 8gb on the same machine, that was never disputed by anyone.
that's obviosly false, the ISA is hardly relevant
And multi-monitor support.
They might… but probably for $200 more than the current base price so it will be basically the same thing but with less options.
Why? 8 GB of RAM in a Mac equals 8.000 GB of RAM on Windows.
Might as well do touch screen also