Like let's put aside socialism, morals, basic humanity. Why the fuck does the west support Israel to the degree it does? Like it only alienates basically every other potential partner in the ME. It can't effectively serve as a barracks state because who would we need that army to fight that wouldn't only make things worse? Their economy is basically propped up by the USA. Yes they serve as a platform for weapons and systems testing, but they don't need a complete blank cheque too it. Like I don't get this logic. Cut em a check and pull bibi's leash and wash your hands of it. Like the logic of "Unconditional 110% support" is just fuckin nuts. Yeah sure a good bit of it us ideology, but there has to be some matrierial calculus in there somewhere. They are basically sacrificing the baby Ukraine over this.

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[–] SteamedHamberder@hexbear.net 48 points 2 years ago (2 children)

            
              Intelligence sharing
“anti-terrorism” training
outsourcing a destination for any Jewish refugees, and assuaging guilt about Holocaust victims the U.S. didn’t save.
Fulfillment of Apocalyptic Prophecy

[–] the_itsb@hexbear.net 35 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Fulfillment of Apocalyptic Prophecy

I feel like this one is underappreciated outside circles directly adjacent to this, to the horrific detriment of the rest of society. There are people rooting for - some of them actively working towards - the world to be in terrible warfare, because they believe it serves own religious ends.

I grew up in that ideology, and idk what to do about the way it affects people. My parents are stoked about the current bloodshed because maybe this might be the beginning of the war that heralds the return of Jesus. What do you even do with that?

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 26 points 2 years ago

I assumed this was a minority view in the US, or one that’s subconsciously held. But then yesterday a user posted an excerpt about George Bush going on about biblical warfare and esoteric entities to the catholic French president (who was completely confused), and that convinced me there is a deep and unsettling and broken population of people in the US, even more than what I originally believed.

[–] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago

I grew up in that ideology, and idk what to do about the way it affects people. My parents are stoked about the current bloodshed because maybe this might be the beginning of the war that heralds the return of Jesus. What do you even do with that?

you have to improve peoples' material conditions and foster a culture of curiosity about world so that they fall out of religion on their own. and critical support for reddit atheists.

[–] JK1348@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago

Also their military industrial complex corps get fed with all those tax dollars