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[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 109 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (37 children)

I get it, but this take fucking worries me, dawg. The last time the Democrats played the "I don't have to try and appeal to you because the other guy is Hitler, lol" card, 'Hitler' won. It's even a little on the nose that this is coming from Hillary. I'm worried that they're falling into the same intellectually and politically bankrupt trap as in 2016, that they're aware that they don't have a meaningful platform besides "we're not republicans", and that they've somehow convinced themselves that this is enough. The republicans of 2020 and 22 also had that same absence of platform, absence of appeal, and just trying to coast on party brand, and look where that got them. Shit is on fire, we don't have time for these dumb fuck games, let alone for Trump to win again. C'mon guys, don't fuck this up.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (11 children)

It’s even a little on the nose that this is coming from Hillary. I’m worried that they’re falling into the same intellectually and politically bankrupt trap as in 2016, that they’re aware that they don’t have a meaningful platform besides “we’re not republicans”, and that they’ve somehow convinced themselves that this is enough.

The irony is that... progressives absolutely do have a solid platform that people generally support. by people, I'm excluding Hilary's and Biden's Corporate Donors. Sorry, I don't have to respect Citizens United.

[–] btaf45@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (10 children)

Biden's Corporate Donors.

These people must have hated it when Biden created a 15% minimum corporate tax rate.

[–] subignition@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

These people must have hated it when Biden created a 15% minimum corporate tax rate.

If the status quo is any indication, corporate tax rules are largely performative. I would be happy to be wrong about that and see actual enforcement happen as a result of the Inflation Reduction Act, but I'm not gonna hold my breath.

https://itep.org/55-profitable-corporations-zero-corporate-tax/

There is some detailed guidance about the CAMT I found here, but someone with more specific knowledge will have to parse through it to determine how easily they are gonna be able to dodge this, too.

https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-drop/n-23-20.pdf

[–] btaf45@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

These people must have hated it when Biden created a 15% minimum corporate tax rate.

If the status quo is any indication, corporate tax rules are largely performative.

First of all NO tax increase is ever "performative". That is a completely meaningless sentence. 2nd, you obviously don't understand how rare and difficult it is to increase taxes. 3rd, you obviously don't understand how critical it is to raise taxes on the wealthy.

[–] subignition@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Did you click through to the first article I linked? I called them performative because corporations just exploit loopholes to avoid paying their dues anyway.

I understand the importance of raising taxes on the wealthy. However, I also understand that those efforts will be meaningless if they aren't backed up on the enforcement side.

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