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[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago (28 children)

Lemmy.ml is run and was started by the developers of Lemmy. The developers themselves align with lemmygrad, however they try to keep their politics out of lemmy.ml for the most part. It's debateable how effective they are with this, it probably ebbs and flows somewhat.

Moderation without informing you is common across all lemmy instances. Moderators have to go out of their way to notify you, there are no automated messages to go along with moderator action. However, lemmy has always had an open modlog, so you can see why you were moderated if you look it up. Note: sometimes I've had difficulty loading the modlog, particularly the instance modlog (where an overall instance ban would be), though community modlogs tend to load fine.

Also, you should bear in mind the difference between instance admin and community moderators - a community moderator is allowed to run their community as they see fit, within the rules of the instance (like reddit was supposed to be). If a moderator wants to ban you, they may have every right to per the instance rules, even if they have no good justification or you didn't break any rules.

Certainly, the hexbear admin are just as bad as the hexbear moderators, and will throw bans around for dubious reasons while protecting their own committing the same offence. Lemmygrad moderators seem a little less eager to ban, but they're still looking for any excuse. I haven't had any encounters with lemmy.ml moderation though, but I wouldn't consider the place a dumpster fire - that title firmly belongs to hexbear.

One good reason to keep lemmy.ml is simply to keep up with lemmy back-end development.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (27 children)

the modlogs are public, anyone can just go on hexbear, plug in your name and see why you got banned:

here's one of your removed comments:

mod Removed Comment Actually Palestinians started the violence. They fought a war, they lost. That doesn't excuse anything Israel has done, but credit where credit is due. Hamas are not freedom fighters, that isn't their goal. Their goal is to eradicate anyone that doesn't share their beliefs. Freedom for the people of Palestine and peace in the region, but the likes of Hamas and Netanyahu can suck a bag of each others' virgin dicks. by TWeaK@lemm.ee

the reason you were site banned was because you were having a meltdown over getting a comm ban for your genocide apologia (lmao)

mod Banned TWeaK@lemm.ee reason: convicted on purgery (malding over a comm ban :farquaad-point:)

[–] Metal_Zealot@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

People finding out that their history of being an asshole is public information will never not be funny

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Be specific, which part of that was me being an asshole?

[–] Metal_Zealot@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This, nonchalantly being a prick

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Yes, that was shitty of me. It was a sarcastic comment against someone else (hence the :P), who also had their comments removed because they were behaving worse. But on Uplifting News, my comment really wasn't appropriate regardless. I deserved to have those comments removed as well as the brief temporary ban there. That was good moderation.

However that has nothing to do with hexbear or anything we're talking about here.

Focusing specifically on the comment I had removed from hexbear (quoted above), and the message I sent which led to the site ban (you can find that on Chapo from around that time), how was I being an asshole? How was my comment "genocide apologia" and how was I "malding" in the message?

I don't think you can actually back that up with any sound reasoning. Hence, the moderators at hexbear are shit, which makes the place a dumster fire.

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