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Liam repeating NATO talking points. Guests saying drivel like “AMLO is liberal trump”

When will @wtypstan answer for the crimes of the podcast. walter-yell

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[–] happybadger@hexbear.net 60 points 2 years ago (6 children)

I wish they'd replace Liam. He doesn't really add anything in general and his politics are so far to the right of the other two hosts. It's like bring your kid to work day.

[–] Tachanka@hexbear.net 57 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Rocz and Liam are best friends irl, big time drinking buddies, codependent alcoholics, and Liam regularly alleges that his alcohol addiction saved him from his heroin addiction. So good luck getting him off that podcast lol. Any time Roczniak has been approached about what an asshole Liam is he goes full "I will always defend my friends!!!" mode.

[–] Poison_Ivy@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago

As a person who has dealt with addiction and has been friends with other addicts, codependent friendships based on addiction typically end up very well :) especially when one friend has a worse addiction than the other

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 50 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Like my dad always used to tell me

The people you spend time with says a lot more about you than your mouth does

Of course, he'd say it in Spanish and usually because I hung out with the goth kids in school

[–] FloridaBoi@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My mom would say

dime con quién andas y te diré quién eres

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

mejor solo que mal acompañado

[–] FloridaBoi@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago

That’s a good one

[–] Bobson_Dugnutt@hexbear.net 48 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Liam's dad has better takes than Liam

[–] wtypstanaccount04@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 37 points 2 years ago

episode 200 should be liam's dad dunking on the other 199 episodes

Liam's dad go on chapo

[–] CliffordBigRedDog@hexbear.net 41 points 2 years ago (2 children)

There was an episode where he drops off halfway to watch a fking baseball game lol

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 32 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Pros: Liam is gone for an episode

Cons: Liam is getting money

[–] CliffordBigRedDog@hexbear.net 27 points 2 years ago

Nah dude he was still randomly butting in about how the yankees are winning because he's watching it on his tv while still recording

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 31 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] CliffordBigRedDog@hexbear.net 31 points 2 years ago

It was a premium episode too lol

(I pirated it)

[–] raven@hexbear.net 21 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Aside from being a loud mouthed lib and talking over the other, funnier hosts, what did Liam do? Or does that pretty much cover it? I've heard a lot of people talk about disliking him.

[–] happybadger@hexbear.net 29 points 2 years ago (2 children)

There's that and he just doesn't contribute much in terms of the group dynamic. Rocz is the engineering expert and narrator, Alice is the polymath theory nerd who brings jokes, the guest is the subject matter expert, and Liam is just... an arbitrary guy from Philly who is weirdly attached to both of his co-hosts. He derails most episodes multiple times and it isn't usually for any good reason.

If you subbed him out for a sandwich, would the quality of the podcast suffer?

[–] raven@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago (2 children)

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Probably wouldn't even notice for a couple episodes if he was.

So we have an engineer and a semi-lawyer, who else would you put on there as your dream replacement for Liam? Can't be too funny because Alice is already class clown so to speak.

[–] happybadger@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They could still have a wild card guy like Brace in Trueanon, Jake in Qanon Anonymous, or Henry in Last Podcast on the Left. That wild card guy just can't be obnoxious or derail the podcast. Maybe get some radical urbanist or a political economy nerd in terms of contribution, or just a non-obnoxious normal schmuck who will yell the same radical things I want to yell. Someone like Adam Conover or the Crime Pays But Botany Doesn't guy would be the ideal. When Alice has historian Patrick Wyman on Trash Future he's also a good fit for their dynamic.

[–] raven@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago

Yeah my first thought was a radical urbanist too. Brace being on wtyp would be like the avengers of left podcasts soypoint-2

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago

You don't need a replacement. The sweet spot for number of people in a podcast is two hosts plus the guest. Three hosts is already too crowded unless one of the host rarely talks and is more like a side commentator than an actual host.

[–] Ho_Chi_Chungus@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago

If you subbed him out for a sandwich, would the quality of the podcast suffer?

Depends on the sandwich

I'd take Liam over a PB&J, a Reuben might not be a bad replacement, I'd pay for a higher patreon tier for a BLT instead of Liam

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I mean, being very reactionary does matter when they are discussing a Soviet project or anything else AES

[–] raven@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago

Agreed, and the other two can already be reactionary enough on their own sometimes.
I guess I just have my lib-filter dialed in, tuning out all but the most egregious examples. I don't expect much more from podcasts.

[–] pumpchilienthusiast@hexbear.net 21 points 2 years ago

you could replace Liam with a Markov chain bot and it would be an improvement