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[–] Fried_out_Kombi@lemmy.world 74 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

It certainly doesn't help that it's literally illegal to build enough housing across the vast majority of urban land (at least in the US and Canada). Nothing like good ol' fashioned manufactured scarcity to guarantee line keeps on going up.

It's the mother of all regulatory capture, where our local governments (who are supposed to represent the needs of the people) have passed so many frickin laws to systematically manufacture and maintain the artificial scarcity of housing that keeps these ghouls' investments so wildly profitable. Restrictive zoning that makes townhouses and duplexes literally illegal? Check. Arbitrary and pseudoscientific parking minimums? Check. Setback requirements so everyone is legally required to have a massive resource-consuming, space-wasting front lawn whether they want it or not? Check.

Utter insanity.

[–] henfredemars 24 points 2 years ago (4 children)

A friend of mine wants to build a small house on land he legally owns, but he's forbidden by municipality law unless it's a luxury home.

It's dumb. He owns the property, but he doesn't have the money to build a luxury house. Why can't he build a small house?

I guess not dedicating your life to pay off your house is illegal.

[–] Garbanzo@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

land he legally owns

Well the thing is he doesn't really own it. He owns the right to use it, and that right is extremely limited. You really can't say you own land when:

  1. Men with guns will kick you off the land if you stop paying your ~~rent~~ property taxes.
  2. The rights you do have over the land can be removed if the community decides they have a better use for it.
  3. Someone else might own the rights to resources on the land like minerals, oil, or water.
  4. Any substantial improvements or change of use must be approved by the local government.
[–] Fried_out_Kombi@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The crazy thing about the whole situation is it's like the ONE time that the solution is actually deregulation and stronger property rights, but it's also the ONE time libertarians WANT heavy regulations, weak property rights, and big daddy government interfering in your personal life.

I feel like I'm in bizarro world.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

A libertarian is just a Republican trying to sleep with a Democrat. Once you understand that everything they do makes sense.

[–] Fosheze@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (3 children)

What makes a luxury home different from any other home?

[–] Garbanzo@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

A backsplash in the kitchen made out of those linear tiles in shades of grey, or at least that's what all the house flippers of the last few years seem to think.

[–] henfredemars 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Minimum dollar value for the house.

[–] creditCrazy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

So basically the only way you can legally make more houses is if you're looking to make a company town like it's 1900

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Higher taxes I imagine. Government only has so much land to get money from so they want the most money per unit. You might say "well why not put an apartment building there?". Which should mean even more money but each person there is a certain cost. So even if you make more money per unit you spend more. The ideal, from the POV of the government, would be the town having no residents only businesses. Plus you know only poor people young people and non-whites live in apartment buildings and Karen on the zoning board has strong opinions on those types.

Basically bigotry and incentives.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Because your friend has a zoning board and they don't vote.

[–] STRIKINGdebate2@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Imagine legally forcing everyone's house to look the same. Seriously lawn laws in are so bonkers yet nobody bat's an eye at them.

[–] Fried_out_Kombi@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

True Freedom™ is when the government forces every single person to have identical, ugly-ass front lawns for completely arbitrary aesthetic reasons, clearly /s

[–] creditCrazy@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It honestly amazes me how Americans warship freedom while they don't use it at all and shame people for being free

[–] Fried_out_Kombi@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I honestly think many people don't really know what freedom means. They think it's a one-way street that means they can get whatever they want, but they never consider that freedom means other people can do what they want, too.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Except this is because of zoning and zoning exists because of racism.

Yes! It's also refreshing to see you mention parking minimums. It's like everyone is blind to the sheer amount of parking lots everywhere taking up so much space.