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[–] Noxvento@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Whenever I have a tech problem, I add reddit to google search. That's the only way to get good answers from google. This worked great until their API scam.

After switching to the fediverse, I should also replace Google. But with what?

[–] Gorroth@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I switched to Duckduckgo recently. So far it works good and gives me helpful results. Can’t give long time Test results, using it since a week. But I think it gets the job done.

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I was very happy am that Apple added it as a default option in iOS. I had been using it off and on for years but now it’s been my default in various browsers for I guess about 3-4 years. Generally I find what I want with no problem, but still need to append !g and get the results from Google for some searches. Maybe about 10%, and more often on image searches.

[–] Gorroth@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

That is really good to hear! I also added it as default search engine in safari and brave since I switched. Thought I have to go full in in order to give it a chance. Where exactly do you add the „!g“?

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Anywhere in the search string works, and then it redirects you to google.

Oh, and the feature is called “bangs”. I knew there were a good handful of them but apparently there are a ton! Over 13,000?

https://duckduckgo.com/bangs

[–] Almighty5617@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

The "!g" is part of something called "bangs" on DuckDuckGo. Bangs are prefixes to redirect your query to another search engine. For example "!g How to pet a cat" will redirect you to Google, searching for "How to pet a cat"

Other useful bangs are "!m" for maps, "!gi" for Google images, "!so" for stack overflow.

You can find more about it at the bangs page: https://duckduckgo.com/bangs

[–] haulyard@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Been using it exclusively for years with no issues.

[–] Danatronic@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Same, I've never found it to be significantly worse than google except in AI-aided features like Reverse Image Search.

[–] oaschbeidl@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I'm thinking of giving Ecosia another go, since I really appreciate their whole "use the whole net income to plant trees" thing. Just gotta check out how well their algorithm does at this point.

[–] DeriHunter@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (6 children)

CHATGPT, although it sometimes lie so need to take it with a grain of salt

[–] skillissuer@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

chatgpt will make up believable bs on spot if you ask it about anything remotely obscure

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It is slightly confusing to me why everyone was insisting ChatGPT was a threat to Google and that it would replace Google search. They don’t seem like comparable products.

[–] rtfm_modular@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

If you imagine users asking questions to Google just to recieve a bunch of crappy listicles or the wiki page, versus ChatGPT, it makes more sense.

ChatGPT enables you to have a dialogue to ask follow up questions, more detail or summarize information in two sentences. Google can’t compete with that using a page-rank algorithm alone. It is incredibly powerful and it’s getting exponentially better.

I’d caution anyone who just dismisses it by calling it a chatbot or says it hallucinates too much. I found the accuracy between 3.5 to 4 pretty astonishing to the point where I now fear the AGI apocalypse.

[–] Carnelian@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Honestly for certain things that I was already knowledgable about, it provided a really great and accurate summary when I asked. Other times not so much, so I don’t feel comfortable using it for research like that.

I think if it could base its output on real sources and direct you to them it would be a bit better

[–] Noxvento@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

It can help, but it's data is sometimes too old.

[–] Neato@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Hah. Imagine if you went to Wikipedia and had to account for that 40% of all info on there was straight made up. Like the Scots wikipedia.

[–] stormfallen@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

LLMs are far better at writing things that look like answers than they are at writing actual answers.