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[–] KISSmyOS@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (4 children)

The war kills Ukrainians and undesirable Russian minorities, keeps Ukraine out of EU and NATO, and doesn't affect the elites in Moscow.
So it's a win-win for the Kremlin.

[–] koolkiwi@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Also pushed Sweden and Finland into NATO, so I dunno about that

[–] psmgx@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

The "Finlandization" of the Baltics and Georgia was a stated policy goal for a while. Browbeat and threaten them into not being in NATO enough to keep border secure. Might be worthwhile to try to get Ukranian industry, grain, and sea access, but that means they just opened up a whole new front in the north.

[–] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago

It's destroying their military equipment and stockpiles. This isn't win win for the Kremlin, they're in trouble.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Russia has been the top recruiter for NATO in the last two years.

[–] theodewere@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago

everything you said is ridiculous, but this part is the best

keeps Ukraine out of EU and NATO

Ukraine is now a proxy NATO country with a NATO army fighting and killing Russians and destroying the Russian military.. it couldn't have failed more spectacularly..