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[–] kobra@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago (17 children)

I'm confused on what the EU is going for here. When I read "carbon neutral" I assume that means minimized emissions + carbon offsets.

I'm not sure if "zero carbon" is even a thing but it sounds like that is what EU wants "carbon neutral" to mean?

[–] CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 years ago (8 children)

If I kill your dog but give you a new one I don't think I could be described as "dog neutral"

[–] kobra@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

I mean.. okay. What if I took a $1 bill from you and replaced with 4 quarters? Would that be “money neutral”? These metaphors aren’t really clearing up my confusion.

Does the EU want carbon neutral to mean “zero carbon emitted during manufacturing/shipping/etc”?

If so, that’s fine and clears up my confusion.

I just think a “zero carbon” moniker would make more sense than “carbon neutral” which (at least to me) infers some kind of offset.

[–] CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Not every CO2 "storage" is as stable as another one.

The way CO2 output is "negated" is usually with poor, short term storage, that won't actually help for climate change, in exchange for extracting extremely stable CO2 sources like petrol or coal

[–] kobra@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

I’m not arguing that offsets are “okay” but they are what I have always understood the term “carbon neutral” to mean. I don’t think very many people understood what I wrote 🤷‍♂️

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