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[–] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (3 children)

“We’ll just put roundabouts instead of stop lights, it’s how Europe does it.”

[–] Nugget@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

At least roundabouts are significantly safer than stop lights!

[–] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 2 points 2 years ago

Roundabouts are actually safer and generally better for traffic flow.

[–] FarFarAway@startrek.website 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Serious question though.

How do people deal with exiting these roundbaouts in Europe?

Nobody in america uses them (edit in: turn signals) when exiting and im stuck there waiting for a spot to clear, or until someone decides to let me know theyre exiting. It doesnt help theyre the smallest roundabouts they could possibly make. Everyone behind me gets mad, but just entering is like playing a game of chicken.

Do people in europe have the same issue, and they've just learned to time it better / have more space between entrances and exits, or are people more courteous, and use their damn turn signals.?

[–] Sheeple@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (2 children)

We use our god damn turn signals.

What kinda neanderthal wouldn't????

[–] FarFarAway@startrek.website 5 points 2 years ago

Thank you! I knew there was something we were missing here.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

BMW and Audi drivers on this side of the pond. Hell, I almost walked in front of some sort of massive SUV last night because the fucker turned left, while blowing a stop sign, with no turn signal.

[–] eendjes@feddit.nl 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You just exit them? It’s the people getting onto a roundabout that have to wait.

[–] FarFarAway@startrek.website 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Right, but do you use your turn signal to exit, or do you just exit?

Sry just realized it sounded like no one exits. Haha opps.

[–] HydraulicMonkey@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You should start indicating as you pass the exit before your exit.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Keldoran, I wish! If they even use signals over here, it's as they are making the maneuver.

[–] Sharkwellington@lemmy.one 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Think of it as just the same as exiting and entering like you would on the highway. When nobody's coming you're good to enter and when your exit comes up you leave. Not sure I would necessarily signal entering but signaling the exit helps other people know what you're about to do.

[–] BenadrylChunderHatch@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

You should always signal to exit a roundabout after you pass the exit before the one you want to take. If you want to take the first exit, signal before you enter the roundabout. If you want to take the second exit, signal after you pass the first exit etc.

If you're taking an exit more than 180 degrees around the circle from the entrance, you should signal the other direction to show that you are staying on the roundabout and then signal to leave after you pass the exit before the one you want. E.g. if you're in a country where you drive on the right and the roundabout is on a traditional crossroad '+' and you want to take the third (left) or fourth (u turn) exit then you should indicate left to start with and then indicate right to exit.

Note that this is what you should do. You will see drivers not signalling correctly in any country with roundabouts. The most common error is probably not indicating at all when going straight.

[–] Isoprenoid@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

People should be signalling before they leave, but I'll give you a tip from a country that uses roundabouts.

Look at the front wheels. Where are the front wheels pointing?

The front wheels will tell you where they are going quicker and more often than people's turn signals (which are unreliable).

[–] FarFarAway@startrek.website 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Awesome! Thank you! What a great idea. I will try this next time.

[–] HydraulicMonkey@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I'll give you a better tip for all traffic interactions; look at the driver not the car. You can see where they are looking and what they plan to do in almost all situations. You can even see if they aren't looking and have no plan.