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[–] kot@hexbear.net 27 points 2 years ago (12 children)

I mean, communism is indistinguishable from what the anarchists want (stateless, classless society), the difference is that anarchists want to abolish the state right away, while communists think it will wither away with time, and that attempts to do away with it too soon will just fail

[–] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago (4 children)

what tendency am I if i don't think it'll just wither away, but abolishing states while capitalist ones are still around (certainly not when they're hegemonic) isn't viable?

[–] kot@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I don't think that exists but I also don't think it matters. Communist theorists tend to not talk that much about the actual communist stage of society because it's too far into the future to actually be rigorously described. Socialism is already possible given the current conditions, and it's the current political goal, so they focus on that instead of trying to guess how communism is going to work. The state going away comes from the analysis that states are tools of class suppression and that if there are no classes, the state loses its reason to exist.

[–] Nagarjuna@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The state going away comes from the analysis that states are tools of class suppression and that if there are no classes, the state loses its reason to exist.

There are lots of obsolete institutions that persist through their obsolescence. Institutions are self perpetuating. The state will have to be destroyed.

[–] Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago

what i think they mean is that they will be taken apart naturally after we have effectively mobilized the working class

a politically educated working class is the best way to have a strong pace to communism

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