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Absent powerful capitalist and colonial forces seeking to re-establish themselves, a late-stage Marxist-Leninist society would look approximately horizontal.
The only real hierarchical structures worth preserving are ones that follow from natural deviations in human capabilities and desires. Basically just deferring authority to subject matter experts and not letting 8 year olds determine they want candy for every meal.
Some Marxists argue that decentralized production leads to exchange which leads to commodity production.
This is a bad argument because there's lots of ways to move things that aren't exchange (Graeber lists a few in Dawn of Everything), but lots of Marxists make it.
and then marxists will have a refutation for that refutation, and it goes on and on and on
IRL frameworks will always have more viability than the theoretical, even if the theoretical is right its implementation must occur in order to actually approve it
needless to say i hope world socialism will have lots of variety in order to create the most effective economic system while being owned by the workers and not held back by previously necessary frameworks
Graeber is an anarchist and is not a legitimate source. He literally believes people are not conscious.
Hey, if you hate me so much you find my day old comments and troll post on them you should probably just block me
I don't hate you, though. I'm just replying 'cause it's in my Inbox.
what? when did graeber say this? legitimately interested.
It was in an interview, but I can't find it.
Anyway:
https://nonsite.org/back-to-work-review-of-david-graebers-bullshit-jobs/
Uh, no, there would stilll be leadership and administration.