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This, Grozny, Xinjiang. Meanwhile, you have useful idiots all over social media, spouting Russian and Chinese propaganda with regards to the Palestinian conflict.
How does not wanting Palestinians to be bombed relate to Russia forcefully drafting muslim minorities?
The common theme in both seems to be quite strong racism against muslims
People who are on 'team' Palestine, often unquestioningly parrot Russian (and Chinese) disinformation, because they're under the mistaken impression that their enemy's enemy is their friend. Russia has been a longstanding supporter of the Palestinian cause and an ally of Syrian and Iran, dating back to Soviet times. The Arab world often ignores how Russia and China treats Muslims, because it's politically inconvenient.
Some Muslim lives are clearly worth more than others. Take China. The UN is on record as saying what happened to the Uyghurs may amount to crimes against humanity. An estimated 16000 mosques have been demolished. A million Muslims in camps. Forced sterilisation. Medical experiments. Systemic rape. But you're very unlikely to see large scale protests to oppose that.
The left and Arab world doesn't care that much, in part because they've bought the Russian/Chinese line hook, line and sinker. Partly because west bad, so China/Russia good. Once you realise how selective the outrage is, it's also hard not to be cynical about the motives of some of those protesting.
Do they actually care? Are they protesting because they're angry that people are suffering? Or are they protesting because it's politically convenient and fashionable?
Obviously, what's happening in Gaza should be condemned. But it'd be nice if people came to the conclusion that war crimes are always bad, even when the guys doing it are on 'your team' and not look the other way.
Well said, thank you for countering the propaganda.
I acknowledge there is plenty of astroturfing and accounts parroting ru/xi disinformation, but there are also plenty of people/organizations who would rather those ru/xi supporters not be on the same side are forced to be strange bedfellows.
If this doesn't make sense it makes sense in my COVID head, ask me to come back to it next week when I'm de-fogged. I don't think explosions should be happening in urban areas. I don't think Russia should be doing it in Ukraine, I don't support it from either end in Gaza. I don't think anyone has honestly good intentions when bombing urban and civic areas.