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[–] filister@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So your whole reasoning is that because Jewish people have been oppressed in the past give them a carte blanche to oppress other people?

Didn't you think that Hamas is in power because of the ill treatment and oppression of the Palestinians?

Do you think that the Nazi party would come into force if it wasn't the Versailles treaty, that put the German people into a corner, with hyperinflation and no hope in sight. Can't you see the parallels?

When did violence have given birth to something good?

[–] probablyaCat@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago

Where did I say anything about them having carte blanche to oppress? Where did I say their oppression gave them any rights? I didn't. I said that why9 was disgusting for what they said and explained why.

And no. I do not think Hamas is only in power due to things Israel has done. Beyond existing. The Muslim brotherhood existed before Israel. They have spring up in most countries that have a major Muslim population as Islamic extremists. They want a unified Muslim state under Sharia law. Even if Israel did not exist, Hamas would likely still exist in the region in some form telling the ruling powers they aren't Islamic enough. And killing people. Gay people. Women who want to have equal rights. Atheists. People who decide they don't want to be Muslim. World leaders who sign peace treaties.

Yeah it's pretty accepted now that the harsh punishments post WWI created the perfect environment for ww2. But it is also accepted that appeasement to Germany to prevent ww2 was a really bad idea as well. Parallels only go so far. I was not drawing a parallel in my above comment. I was explaining how very different the Holocaust was from the Palestinian territories.

Umm violence ended pretty much every war. Civil war and slavery and all that (in the U.S.). WW2 (that ending was real violent). Non-violence is definitely preferable, but it isn't always an option.