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[–] Rayspekt@kbin.social 171 points 2 years ago (28 children)

Well, if you don't pay with money, you're paying with your attention. Do you think they create this huge service just for funsies?

Tbf, out of all media streaming services across movies, series, and music, Spotify has the highes bang-for-your-buck. It's still like Netflix at that time when there was only Netflix and you could watch almost everything on one platform. I still buy records that I like on physical media like vinyl, but Spotify is such a great deal for convenient listening to all music out there.

[–] Blackout@kbin.social 58 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

Man these people forget the days when a month of Spotify would afford you 1 CD. I remember cause I would spend half my paycheck on music. I'm just sitting here happy for services like Spotify and YouTube in my life. I remember a time when music and information was much harder to obtain (even illegally).

[–] thejml@lemm.ee 26 points 2 years ago (3 children)

But if you bought the CD you actually owned something. Stop paying for the services and you have nothing if all you used was spotify/YouTube/pandora. I gave up on paying for streaming years ago and spend the same amount monthly on purchasing music. I get CDs, either new or used. I’ve amassed a collection and I don’t need Internet or monthly charges to play them.

But I don't want to own it. I don't want to amass a collection of CDs taking up space somewhere. Been there, done that. I have a large collection of ripped mp3s from CDs I bought in the 90s and early 2000s (I've long since disposed of the physical media). I haven't clicked on a single one of them in years, I just keep them for nostalgia sake and because they take relatively little space.

I just occasionally want to listen to music sans commercials or annoying DJs wasting my time. For the cost of 1 CD a month my entire family can listen to almost anything they desire, at any time, without hassles (on Pandora in our case but I assume the economics are similar).

Same thing with movies, honestly. I watch them once and move on. There's a small handful I like enough to rewatch and I do own those.

I get the whole, we don't own anything anymore, argument and I mostly agree with it (see my massive Steam library). I just want both options to be viable. Streaming for ephemeral entertainment and actual ownership for the things I choose to keep.

[–] Blackout@kbin.social 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We all have our preferences and I enjoy the quantity of music I can get in a heartbeat. It really sucked when you were 16 and spent $15 on a CD that sucked because there was no way to hear it ahead of time.

[–] thejml@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

My rule was always “buy it if there are at least 3 songs I know & like”. Only really had a few disappoint. I used to hang out at used CD stores though. I got so many for $2.50 or $5. Even a few gems for $1.

[–] Rayspekt@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago

Valid point, but commuting with my turntable to listen to my sick vinyls on the go is a pain in the ass. Also moving sucks ass when you have a metric fuckton of sensitive vinyl to move. Owning stuff also has its downsides. Also no way I'm digitizing my vinyls and cutting them and shit to listen to them on the go, ain't nobody got time fo dat.

I gave up on CDs roughly 15 years ago because I don't like the format compared to vinyl (small album art, plasticy jewelcases, ...).

[–] small44@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

You owned the music when you buy it. With multiple backups the risks of losing it it very minimal but with spotify or other streaming services, if you have to reduce your expenses you completely lose the access to the music till you pay again. Spotify always grey out songs too so even when you pay you may not have access to the some of the music you want to listen to

[–] Rayspekt@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago

I feel you, the value from Spotify is enormous. I can sift through ten different bands in no time just because I decided that I want to look up a new genre that I may or may not be totally into by the end.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I remember cause I would spend half my paycheck on music

Lmao

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[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

Kid: goes to school

Police: THAT'S ILLEGAL

[–] AcornCarnage@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I know not everyone will agree, but I think YouTube premium is the better bang-for-buck service. $3 more per month than Spotify and includes YouTube Music premium and YouTube Premium. So all the music and ad-free YouTube.

[–] SnipingNinja@slrpnk.net 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

YouTube is basically the same price as Spotify in my country (only 12 cents more actually), so even more bang for my buck, specially for family plans.

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[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'd rather vote for Deezer. Costs the same, but you also get lossless (16-bit 44.1kHz FLAC) audio.

By the way, free-mp3-download.net rips songs from Deezer. And if you don't like spending storage, you could self-host your own Navidrome server, though I get that may not be convenient.

[–] poopkins@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I need 48-bit 96kHz raw PWM otherwise my ears can't tolerate it. I can hear the difference in the waveforms.

[–] uberkalden@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Careful, this same take when discussing YouTube ads will draw the ire of the internet

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