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Maps and documents recovered from the bodies of Hamas attackers reveal a coordinated plan to target children and take hostages inside an Israeli village near Gaza.

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[–] Squeak@lemmy.world 47 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Did they really though, or is this just propaganda?

[–] demonquark@lemmy.world 44 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I wouldn’t trust anything “found” by Israeli intelligence. Having said that, according to article, these are plans for:

Hamas units to surround and infiltrate villages and target places where civilians, including children, gather.

Which is reasonably close to what happened. Given how direct and quick the strike was, it’s reasonable to assume that plans of that nature exist.

Then again, October 7th was a a Saturday and a holiday and Hamas attacked early in the morning. If they wanted to kidnap kids, it wouldn’t make sense to target schools.

TLDR: I dunno. Maybe.

[–] danhakimi@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Other officials in their leadership said they were confused about the timing.

The attack was also the 50th anniversary, to the day, of the Yom Kippur war.

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 2 points 2 years ago

Yeah, it’s not as if they live close to Jewish people, probably no idea what their Sabbath is.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago (2 children)

People trusting the IDF in 2023 is something I'll never understand.

Their kneejerk reaction has always been to claim theyre the victim and their actions are 100% justified.

So now, even when it might be true, there's no way I'd ever trust their word on it.

They're like real life "boy that cried wolf".

[–] jonne 1 points 2 years ago

It's no coincidence the IDF trains US cops.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

At this point anything Israel “finds” just seems to justify the genocide that really seems to be happening.

[–] 4am@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No they absolutely keep their top secret plans printed on hundreds of fliers detailing the atrocities they plan to commit, just in case they’re captured so the whole world learns their “secret” plans that they printed at Kinkos and becomes even more enraged and hits their civilians harder. It’s definitively how real war is done in real life, but I mean obviously by mindless monsters not worthy of the land they’ve continually been forced out of because they’re rabid babykilling Islamic animals hellbent on an antisemitic hell crusade and this map of elementary schools we found totally proves it!

(Yeah, it’s probably propaganda. Israel is about to/is doing genocide in the spotlight and they need justification)

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)
[–] danhakimi@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

they are not ashamed of being terrorists or targeting civilians or teaching schoolchildren to do so. They're quite proud that they've been targeting civilians until they have an English-language interviewer asking them questions on air.

Anybody defending them is a patsy, at best.

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Unlike Hamas who is always honest

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

All people here defending Palestine, and denouncing Israel, but never denouncing Hamas. They implicitly are terrorist apologists. No wonder, since a lot of people here seem to be staunch leftists

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

They keep saying Hamas doesn't represent Palestine but whenever you say that the world needs to end Hamas, they automatically think you're talking about all Palestinians and get offended, so apparently even they are confused. Too many people defending Hamas as if they are Palestine

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

It can be both. When your goal is hostages, it makes sense to take the most vulnerable. Children are easier to take and aren’t likely to fight back.

Edit: Free Palestine 🇵🇸

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Fuck Hamas and all the leftists terrorist apologists

[–] danhakimi@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It's fascinating that you felt the need to edit your comment because just addressing the facts in the present case wasn't enough. Even though the facts might be true and despicable, you still need to make it clear what side you're on, you can't just say what you think is true.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

He didn't say free hamas. Hama's isn't Palestine. Hamas hasn't held an election for almost as long as the average Palestinian has been alive. Longer than they've been able to vote. Personally I'd like to see Palestine free of Israel and Israel's creation hamas.

[–] danhakimi@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I didn't say Hamas was Palestine, I didn't say he said Free Hamas, I didn't say anything about his point except the way he felt the need to inject it on the end of an otherwise complete and practically unrelated point.

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

Yeah but that's enough for all the leftists terrorist apologizers to come from the woodwork

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yep. Know what else is fascinating. **Free Palestine 🇵🇸 **

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Fuck Hamas and all the leftists terrorist apologists

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Remember when Hezbollah kicked Israel’s @ss?