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[–] Bye@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago (36 children)

I thought vaping was fine because I didn’t know it had nicotine in it.

Super fucking addictive, it should absolutely be regulated because currently in most places it isn’t, as evidenced by all the kids buying vapes.

[–] thepianistfroggollum@lemmynsfw.com -4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (21 children)

Nicotine by itself is less physically addicting than caffeine, and no more harmful. It's the 9000 other chemicals in cigarette smoke that increase the addictive properties and cause cancer.

A large part of the reason smoking is so addictive is because it integrates into every part of your life. This is why vaping is by far the most successful method of quitting smoking.

Also, in the US it's illegal to sell nicotine of any form to anyone under 21. But kids will always do the things we tell them not to do exactly because we tell them not to do them. I'd 100% prefer a kid vape than smoke.

[–] AmosBurton_ThatGuy@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children)

Nicotine is absolutely addictive wtf are you talking about. I smoked cigarettes for 6 years and then used a vape to quit cigarettes, it took about 3 months to wean myself off cigarettes and get used to vaping full time. My original plan was to use a vape to get off nicotine completely by gradually lowering my nicotine from 24MG to 0MG of nicotine in my vape juice but that didn't work.

Now here I am 8 years later, vaping my 3MG juice daily and just as additiced to the vape as I was to cigarettes. I have literally the exact same habits with my vape as I did with cigarettes, as soon as I finish eating I pull out my vape, I wake up and have coffee, I pull out my vape, I have some drinks I have a vape. Nicotine is nicotine regardless of how you get it. I've literally tried to quit by going to 0MG juice or going cold turkey 6 times over those 8 years and I just can't do it. It's to fucking hard. I've given up on trying to quit because life sucks and I have no good reason to quit anymore, getting lung cancer is basically my retirement plan at this point. (no clue what the actual health effects are regarding vapes, I'm just being hyperbolic)

Don't get me wrong, vaping is definitely a MUCH better alternative than smoking cigarettes but don't try and downplay just how addictive nicotine is. Nobody should touch nicotine vapes unless you're using it to quit cigarettes.

I 100% agree that kids will get a hold of vapes or smokes regardless of whether it's legal or not to sell it to underagers, but that doesn't mean it's a good thing. Vaping is definitely preferable to smoking, but not getting addicted to nicotine is WAY better than either of those options.

Don't downplay how addictive nicotine is.

Re-read what I said. I said physically addictive, not mentally.

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