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[–] HeartyBeast@kbin.social 18 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Buying a brand new electric car to replace a relatively new ICE is not a great solution.

That is absolutely sound.

However and if the cartoon said that, it would be fine

[–] TigrisMorte@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago

Reality is very few People can afford to replace their car every few Years.

[–] Custoslibera@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I stand by what I said.

We should have less private transport regardless of if it’s electric or ICE.

Arguably action on climate change warrants a significant reduction in car use generally to stop our extinction.

[–] HeartyBeast@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'm in London. I cycle to work and use the tube network and bus network whenever I can. I also have a private car which I use for trips where public transport or my bike is impractical. It's a 2016 model, I expect that it may need replacing in 5 years time. If I took the cartoon at face value, I might think it makes no difference from a climate chang perspective whether I choose petrol or electric - and this is clearly wrong.

[–] eltimablo@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago

If I took the cartoon at face value, I might think it makes no difference from a climate chang perspective whether I choose petrol or electric - and this is clearly wrong.

That's ok, OP will just block you for making a valid point that doesn't align with whatever is written on the inside of his colon.

[–] Custoslibera@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It really depends on the new model of car you choose to replace your outgoing one.

This was the website that I have been thinking of:

https://www.carboncounter.com/#!/explore

You can see some electric cars are far worse than a hybrid as an example.

[–] ErwinLottemann@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

you can also see that there are only a few hybrid vehicles a bit better than bev, and bev are overall 'better' in this diagram?

in fact - if you filter by vehicle class you see that bev are always 'better' in their respective class than hybrid or ice. you can't compare a bev suv with a midsize hybrid.

[–] Nobsi@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

Do you also see the amount of carbon to the left? That isnt total. Its per mile. You cannot even read the diagram and then you claim switching to evs is bad...

[–] eltimablo@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Bikes count as private transport. You wanna take those away too?

[–] Custoslibera@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

No I don’t.

In that context private transport meant cars.

[–] eltimablo@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That would require OP being capable of nuance.