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The Israeli rescue service Zaka says its paramedics removed more than 260 bodies from a music festival that came under attack by Hamas militants.

The total figure of bodies found is expected to be higher, as other paramedic teams were also working in the area and Zaka added that the bodies “haven’t all been collected yet”.

Early on Saturday morning, Hamas targeted Nova music festival, a techno rave in the desert near the border with Gaza.

Videos shared on social media and by Israeli news outlets showed dozens of festival-goers running through an open field as gunshots rang out. Many hid in nearby fruit orchards or were gunned down as they fled.

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[–] vivadanang@lemm.ee 21 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Israel is going to wipe out Hamas.

Honest question: to Israelis that want to see this, what does this mean? forcing the Palestinians out completely to Jordan and Lebanon?

don't get me wrong, it'd be awesome if you could just magically zap the terrorists, but that's not reality. so what's the end game with this kind of rhetoric?

[–] Landmammals@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Hamas the political body that is in control of the Gaza strip?

They sent a military force to go kill civilians. I don't know how much of Israel's motivation is to take the Gaza strip back and move Palestinian civilians around, but killing that many civilians has definitely put Hamas into "fuck around and find out" territory. At the very least I would expect that Israel will not stop until Hamas is no longer a political entity in Gaza.

[–] nbafantest@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Well hopefully a new government, but who knows

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nuremberg scenario if we're lucky.

It turned Germany from antisemitism central into Europe's strongest economy and democracy, at least up until the AfD started trying to weasel the nazi shit back in.

Problem is this isn't the allies making the call here, it's Israel, who's a lot more interested in just crippling Gaza industrially and militarily to the point that rocket assembly and launching become an impossibility, so either absolutely flattening the place, or permanently occupying the place until Fatah or another faction that's not as batshit insane as Hamas are able to pretend to be in control while basically being a paper government where Israel's "security concerns" clash with Gaza's sovereignty.

[–] vivadanang@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

Yeah, Hamas basically destroyed themselves with this shit. The rest of the world watched their warcriming and said "You know, perhaps these aren't the folks that peace can be reached with, go nuts Israel, bomb the shit out of them."

Who's gonna stand up for Hamas at this point, russia and iran? pfft.. get fucked. Any plausible case for their victimhood got lost when they went down this road.