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Wiki - The paradox of tolerance states that if a society is tolerant without limit, its ability to be tolerant is eventually ceased or destroyed by the intolerant. Karl Popper described it as the seemingly self-contradictory idea that in order to maintain a tolerant society, the society must retain the right to be intolerant of intolerance.

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[–] dojan@lemmy.world 97 points 2 years ago (29 children)

Except if you view tolerance as what it is, a social contract. I'll tolerate you as long as you tolerate me.

Thus I get along great with the religious person that just wishes to practise their religion in peace, and respects my existence as a connoisseur of cock outside of it, but we don't have to put up with the neo-nazis calling for both of our heads.

And so the paradox dissolves.

[–] adam_y@lemmy.world 34 points 2 years ago (19 children)

That's true. But it also requires that both sides have the same definition of tolerance and the same definitions of good an evil.

For instance, what if that religion being practiced believed that homosexuality is a sin, and you did not?

In their eyes they'd be justified in thinking you were intolerant of their god-given righteousness and you'd be justified in thinking that they were being intolerant of the liberty of others.

Maybe they actively roam the streets harassing gay people, maybe they have laws about a death penalty, or maybe they just talk about them as unclean. Where does your tolerance start? Is it only at words and not action? Does that mean hate speech is ok?

The paradox here isn't to do with tolerance and intolerance, but the assertion that either of those things exist as objective view points.

[–] averagedrunk@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

That's true. But it also requires that both sides have the same definition of tolerance and the same definitions of good an evil.

It's a similar problem to respect. If I said "I'll show you respect if you show me respect" I could mean that I'll give you due regard for your feelings if you'll do the same. However, too often it means I'll give due regard for your feelings if you'll treat me with deep admiration.

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