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I'm not shitting on anybody, I'm just saying hypothetically, if you set out to wear business casual and not look like a schmuck, "jeans and a hoodie" is not a good strategy, it's not good advice. Business casual usually at least involves a button up, a hoodie is pretty definitively casual-casual, and you should also consider fit and proportion and color and material and texture and pattern. And shoes, shoes matter.
If you don't care, fine, wear whatever you want. Style is personal, and the business casual dress code is very silly.
But if people come here wanting to do the thing described in the title, somebody recommending "jeans and a hoodie" is actively misleading them with terrible, terrible advice. The advice provided in the article is very good advice, although it's generally on the dressy side of business casual.
How is this “not shitting on anybody?” You doubled down on the toxic attitude by doubling down on saying people need to“not look like a schmuck.” Your judgement of how other people look is the problem.
See, I think there's a meaningful and gigantic difference between shitting on hypothetical men where nobody, anywhere could possibly be insulted by the thing I said, and shitting on actual people where you can look down and possibly feel insulted. I don't think the former actually counts as "shitting on people," and it certainly isn't toxic. I'm just saying that it's possible to look like a schmuck in jeans and a hoodie—if they don't fit, if there's a stupid pattern or logo or something on one of them... It's not helpful to just say "jeans and a hoodie" and assume men can figure out the aesthetic.
I didn't say that people needed to not look like schmucks. I was very clear. Again, if you don't care about how you look, wear whatever you want, it's not important. For that matter, if you like how you look, good for you, style is personal. I'd say it's toxic to come here and accuse me of saying the opposite of what I said.
But I'd like to help the men who want to dress better, and in this case, men who want to follow a business casual dress standard. If offering help according to the literal title of community is inherently toxic to you, I'd recommend not being a part of the community.