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[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 73 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (43 children)

UBI is kind of cool but it has some massive flaws. For example: Landlords and groceries can just raise prices to bring the cost of living up and since there are no rent/price controls (because "that would be communism") we'll be right back to where we started. What you want is Universal Basic Services. Anything you need to live is free. Literally impossible for anyone to game that system and equally impossible for people to slip through the gaps, but it's also never going to happen because "that would be communism"

So yeah this is why capitalism has go to, because any attempt at actually making a just and fair society will be dismissed as "being communism"

[–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 21 points 2 years ago (11 children)

We should get rid of landlords either way of course. Don't even need UBI for that. Also get rid of billionaires.

[–] Haui@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 2 years ago (10 children)

The ideas of „you can only own a building you live in“ and „companies can’t own residential buildings“ keep popping up in my head. Any reason that can’t be the solution?

[–] trailing9@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If you want to rent, who owns those buildings? One person who lives there?

[–] Haui@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago

I don’t have a definitive answer for that. Right now I‘d go with that, yes. The goal would be to move away from renting as you age. Everyone should own their living space sooner or later. There are options for this. Where I live you can rent-buy something. It’s renting but you also reduce the price you‘d pay for buying it. It’s very rare though afaik.

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