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But in the grand scheme of things it's a relatively small percentage of people. And If they were serious about saving the tax payers money they wouldn't have written off a few billion in COVID loans a few years back.
They couldn't give two shits if some bloke is down the job center claiming a few hundred quid to sit on his arse, and tbh neither should we. There's significantly bigger fish to fry.
When did I say people aren't playing the system? I said it's massively overestimated given the numbers of people that aren't playing the system.
And welfare spending also includes Pensions. It's also by far and away the largest portion of that pie. Maybe we could take the state pension away from people who already have a nice cushty private pension and distribute that percentage back to people who aren't in a position to retire at all?
I don't know it. Can you show any kind of proof?
For the record, it seems like ~10 million people aren't working who are of working age in the UK. If it's millions, it would mean that at least 1 in 5 people not working abuses the system. Do you really think it's that high?
You claimed that it's millions. Can you show any evidence? I mean, you even claimed the other commenter knows you are right with that.
Your link doesn't say anything about millions of people abusing the system. Did you even read it yourself?
I mean, I know you neither read it, nor have any evidence. You feel that millions of people are abusing the system because you consume propaganda telling you so. But don't you ever stop and think for one second "why hasn't anyone been able to actually prove it"? Why do you believe things based on what you feel is true, instead of trying to base your opinions on facts?
And this doesn't stop with yourself. You're so sure of millions abusing the system that you say even other people know you're right, they're just acting as if you aren't - all the while you haven't seen or shown any evidence for you being correct. But you feel it, so it must be true.
You are always free to show me evidence that they aren't! That would change my mind immediately. Funny how that works, huh? But you know you are lying, so you know there is no evidence, so you say "there is nothing I can do that would change your mind".
The funny thing is that in pretty much every country there are people saying exactly what you are saying ("our country is worse in this compared to others"). And none I've ever talked to have shown evidence for their claims, they always say "we all know it's true".
But this discussion has run its course. As always, there is no evidence, no facts, no data - only feelings and beliefs.