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[–] errer@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Yeah and the big road below can hold WAY more than 10,000 too. The numbers here are all made up and it doesn’t really do a good job of making the point the creator wants to make.

[–] Pipoca@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Yeah.

I think I count 23 lanes in the bottom pic.

Ignoring the effect of heavy vehicles and assuming a free flow speed of 70, the federal highway authority's numbers would be 2400 vehicles per lane or 55k vehicles per hour. Assuming an average occupancy of 1.5 people per vehicle, that's nearly 83k.

I'm having trouble finding actual sources right now for max rail capacity, but https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passengers_per_hour_per_direction claims 60-90k passengers per direction on 3.5 meter lanes for "suburban rail".

Although 83k people per hour is 41.5k people per rail track. Assuming a 360 person train like the Bombardier BiLevel Coach, that's only 115 train cars per hour per track. If each train has 11 cars, that's 10 trains per hour or a train every 6 min. Not really that unreasonable, and the tracks will look mostly empty unlike that monstrosity of a road.

[–] xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The road in the bottom picture seems to be jammed. 23 lanes are no use if there's a bottleneck at the end.

[–] rcbrk@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

That's by design, and helps make the case for MOAR FREEWAY$$!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Induced_demand

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