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Federal government looking to cut $1 billion from National Defence budget (www.cbc.ca)
submitted 2 years ago by sik0fewl@kbin.social to c/canada@lemmy.ca
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The Liberal government is looking to cut almost $1 billion from the annual budget of the Department of National Defence — a demand the country’s top military commander says is prompting some “difficult” conversations within the military.

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[–] MooseGas@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Hear me out. Let's make a few nukes. Sure we cut back on military spending, but if you try anything... nuked. We have the uranium.

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago (3 children)

  1. Nuclear maintenance is very expensive.

  2. Nukes are actually terrible for defense purposes, since starting a nuclear war is a very 'all or nothing' affair, which means your choices are reduced to "Armageddon" or "Let the other side have their way" whenever a crisis comes up.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Apparently, having nukes grants you the "You just crossed another red line!" defence.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It is pretty good for stopping an outright invasion, though, if that's your only concern. That's basically what North Korea does. This is not Canada's strategic position.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 years ago

Nukes are actually terrible for defense purposes, since starting a nuclear war is a very ‘all or nothing’ affair, which means your choices are reduced to “Armageddon” or “Let the other side have their way” whenever a crisis comes up.

See: Russia and every final warning it has given over Ukraine. Since the US knows they have nothing conventionally and doesn't buy that they're going to end the world over a shipment of helmets or whatever it gets ignored.

[–] AngryMulbear@lemmy.ca -2 points 2 years ago

Nukes are a good deterrent against attacks on civilians. There's a reason Ukraine hasn't started lobbing rockets at Russian cities.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 2 years ago

I mean, that's why proliferation happens. It's great for the country doing it but brings us all closer to apocalypse.

In our specific case we're not North Korea and probably don't want to piss off the entire rest of the world, though.

[–] Kbin_space_program@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Post WW1 we were a global power because we had one of the largest logistics chains of chemical weapons.

Allegedly that played a role in the Nazis not using chemical weapons on troops, because Canada completely outclassed them on that.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Huh, interesting. Did Canada have an oil industry going already somewhere in the 40's? Usually that stuff is made in petrochemical facilities.